PS4 and Xbox Rumours

Dannyb01y said:
I hope this killing off the second hand market rumour is false. Surely it would just encourage developers to go down the sequel route ala COD and FIFA every year rather than take a risk on Bulletstorm, Vanquish or Enslaved Odyssey. If consumers cant sell on a title that they don't like surely they'l purchase less unknown games.
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It would probably have the opposite effect on developers actually as most people pick up games like Bulletstorm and such on the cheap or in most cases on consoles second hand. The second-hand stuff isn't a massive issue for me personally as I'm so used to PC gaming where barely anything is second hand and hopefully as XBL matures so will its sales to compete with Steam and the likes.

The online authentication is a bit naff though as it would be so frustrating to get a game but your internet to be down or the servers to be down or even when these consoles become "retro" I bet the authentication servers would be taken down. Also it would hurt other territories such as South America and such places where internet at home might be slightly less common.

My biggest gripe of all of this would be the lack of taking a game to a friends house and the reasonably legitimate ways people share games which consoles have always been awesome for. Word of mouth about a £30-40 console game doesn't go have as far as a £1-3 iphone game :p
 
GAC said:
not sure how, as if your blowing £200-£300 on a console before you buy a game im sure you already have a internet connection.

the one thing that made me chuckle was



especially after ms made various comments about the ps3 and its cell cpu being a issue for devs, sounds like ms have taken a step back to be honest.
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Quite a lot of people actually use internet dongles so they're stuffed.
 
Why are publishers convinced that stopping used games will boost profits massively?
If I couldn't trade in games then i'd simply but LESS games on release day. For games I wasn't that interested in i'd wait til they were reduced in price.
I buy most of my games new but like to trade in an old game to offset the price.
It's simple maths really.
Let's say I have £80 a year to spend on games. If I can't trade in and games cost me £40 each then i'm buying 2 a year. But if I can trade in a game for £20 then i'm getting 4 games a year.

If they reduce the price of new games to £30 then I won't mind. But I wouldn't trust publishers to reduce the price....
 
ic1male said:
Wouldn't be surprised to see the prices go up to £60. Sony already charge that much for new releases on PSN.
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I believe the reason they're so high on PSN/Xbox live is so that they don't undercut proper retailers. If they pee off retailers then they have nobody to sell their consoles. Which is why this "no used games" business probably won't work out.
 
In that Edge article about the Nextbox why does it say that the console will require an Internet connection to function, ruling out a second hand game market? That doesn't rule out anything whatsoever, the only way the second hand games market disappears is if the developers start making people use codes to attach their games to a single account, which the article does go on to speculate about but this is such a massive assumption I don't see why they've needed to make it. Obviously the article is pure speculation anyway but if Microsoft came out and said that the console needs to be connected to the Internet at all times then that could simply be for other reasons such as downloading software patches and firmware updates.
 
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Red Porsche said:
I can't see that happening myself. I think consumers will draw the line at 45-50 quid ( by this i mean actual price shops will sell it for- not rrp/srp etc).
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All launch games shall be £50 almost everywhere probably, bar a few £5-10 off deals at some supermarkets and the like! Then a month or two down the line everywhere will drop to the usual £40 + discounts
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
In that Edge article about the Nextbox why does it say that the console will require an Internet connection to function, ruling out a second hand game market? That doesn't rule out anything whatsoever, the only way the second hand games market disappears is if the developers start making people use codes to attach their games to a single account, which the article does go on to speculate about but this is such a massive assumption I don't see why they've needed to make it. Obviously the article is pure speculation anyway but if Microsoft came out and said that the console needs to be connected to the Internet at all times then that could simply be for other reasons such as downloading software patches and firmware updates.
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Im guessing they might follow Ubis PC system that needs an internet connection to play a game, so when the authetication servers are down, so is your game. To allow that to happen you have to create a Ubi account and have your games attached to that...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
kkelly said:
They'll need to allow off line play, remember when PSN was hacked was offline for months
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Not really, in Ubisofts case, when its down its down, unfortunately its likely that if they use this as DRM that youll be **** out of luck when it does go down. It be interesting to see what theyd have in place if ever MS went bust (lol not gonna happen :p) or far more likely what theyll do once they move onto the next generation, will they ensure these authetication servers are up?

I guess for a PC gamer its easy enough to boycott it by avoiding Ubis games, cant say the same about a whole console platform though and while MS charge for features other platforms provide for free and people are happy to accept that, I guess its not so much of a slippery slope to assume they might just do the same with this...

The touted Steam console seems much more tempting now

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
If it's true about the new consoles not playing second hand games i might be tempted to just not bother with one at all. I'm not paying £40 for a new game only to finish it in 6 hours and then being stuck with something that has zero value.
 
It is concerning.....I rarely buy 2nd hand games, but almost always sell games on once finished with; removing the 2nd hand market will just force me to wait longer before buying a game, i.e. when the price has dropped.
I think that game prices are generally fair, but am a relatively casual gamer and never play multiplayer for example; this means that I can justify (to myself !) that game prices need to be about half of what they start as, before I will buy......as my 'value' from a game is considerably less than, for example, a player who plays campaign, then months of multiplayer etc.
 
Is it too idealised for me to think this might mean better games if gamers are ultimately more choosy what they buy because of the reduced ability to buy them much cheaper or to offload them once bought?

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
What I'd prefer is a lower cost of entry - say £10-£20 but then they can add microtransactions if they want to. Not make them necessary purchases to complete the game but if someone wants to spend money on a few trinkets, let them.
 
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