They won't do that, it would confuse Jonny Moron who wouldn't understand why a lower number costs more.
PS4 and Xbox Rumours
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They won't do that, it would confuse Jonny Moron who wouldn't understand why a lower number costs more.
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i thought pricing had came down to 50p per GB in retail pricing?
also if sony were buying SSD's in bulk, they would get it for far cheaper, buying them practically at cost i would imagine.
obviously they wouldn't use top of the range ssd's but they could use cheap ones. then again is an ssd much use in a console even a next gen one?
i do suspect their to be 2 models or 1 model with another appearing within 3 months. imo ssd is still too expensive, because the only real benefit is loading times, which aren't really a problem on consoles, developers seem to be adding a huge amount of crap into the start up of their games so even if you do have an ssd, fifa would still take 5 mins to get through all the intro crap.
If you have multiple version (some without SSD's, some with) then no. If all consoles are guaranteed to have a minimum of 500MB/s read rate from their drives (high tier SSD's) then that's a game changer regarding what they can do with that much fast storage.
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do you really need such big read rates when you have 8GB of RAM?
because games will already be optimised to make full use of the RAM due to it being a console with a standard spec.
Plus the assets are going to be bigger than current games too. Nonetheless, I don't see an SSD being standard equipment on a console for a while, a larger HDD will be preferable to both the manufacturers and most consumers. The more storage you've got, the more chance of you buying more stuff to fill it.
some light reading for you all from the guys at guerrilla games on the killzone demo they showed.
http://www.guerrilla-games.com/presentations/Valient_Killzone_Shadow_Fall_Demo_Postmortem.pdf
some interesting points in there, especially the total memory usage, i know its only a demo so maybe under what a full level would use but less than 5 gigs used for the game isnt too shabby, so at a rought guess that leaves 2 gigs of memory to play with if you give the os and other things 1 gig. and of course this is still not fully optimized but on that id say the ps4 is looking nice. just have to see how far they can push it.
http://www.guerrilla-games.com/presentations/Valient_Killzone_Shadow_Fall_Demo_Postmortem.pdf
some interesting points in there, especially the total memory usage, i know its only a demo so maybe under what a full level would use but less than 5 gigs used for the game isnt too shabby, so at a rought guess that leaves 2 gigs of memory to play with if you give the os and other things 1 gig. and of course this is still not fully optimized but on that id say the ps4 is looking nice. just have to see how far they can push it.
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they normally use laptop drives which are considerably more expensive. they could use pc drives but then the size of the console is greatly increased.
therefore 500GB sounds about right, or it may well be 320GB.
TBH, even in the very unlikely event of the new Xbox being more powerful than the PS4, it's their market focus..casual gaming, shovelware kinnect enabled dross, that has made me lose all interest in Xbox as a brand...they're slowly but surely going down the Nintendo path.
It'll be PS4 and PC for me this time, Sony have set their stall out for the PS4 as gaming being the number one priority, everything else is secondary...the Xbox seems to treat gaming as an additional benefit to all the 'living room multi media hub' crap that the marketing suits want to shove down everyone's throat.
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Oh give up - Microsoft will walk all over Sony, likely with minimal effort.
What exactly did Sony even show us?
A controller that still has the sticks in the wrong place and remains a 2nd place to the xbox controller?
No console at all?
No solid AAA games - a wavey hand chronically awful music game? A few devs talking there usual "oh we can be so creative spiel"!
Quite predictably, all we've really had so far is Sony once again claiming their console is super-powerful. Which happens everytime and never amounts to anything.
They've played catchup on the controller (and still come short), they've played catchup on Kinect (and still come short - what with Kinect 2 round the corner).
Microsoft can easily roll out a new console, new kinect, plenty of solid, well known titles such as Forza, Splinter Cell, COD, Halo, Gears of War (i.e. Hardcore games) and much more interactive "move-like" games that benefit from the excellent functionality of Kinect. And with Windows / Phone 8, they can tie everything together nicely in a consistent looking interface. Something which Sony don't have either.
What exactly did Sony even show us?
A controller that still has the sticks in the wrong place and remains a 2nd place to the xbox controller?
No console at all?
No solid AAA games - a wavey hand chronically awful music game? A few devs talking there usual "oh we can be so creative spiel"!
Quite predictably, all we've really had so far is Sony once again claiming their console is super-powerful. Which happens everytime and never amounts to anything.
They've played catchup on the controller (and still come short), they've played catchup on Kinect (and still come short - what with Kinect 2 round the corner).
Microsoft can easily roll out a new console, new kinect, plenty of solid, well known titles such as Forza, Splinter Cell, COD, Halo, Gears of War (i.e. Hardcore games) and much more interactive "move-like" games that benefit from the excellent functionality of Kinect. And with Windows / Phone 8, they can tie everything together nicely in a consistent looking interface. Something which Sony don't have either.
You do realise you're both as bad as each other, right? Denouncing either console before they've even been released to the public is rather silly.
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Well, bearing in mind we've seen Sony's offering, it's very easy to appraise. If a company the size of Microsoft can't beat what Sony have announced, somethings gone seriously wrong.
IMO, Sony are the only people that have lost the plot - they're aiming at Indie games and sharing videos etc... how incredibly uninteresting.