Quest 2, Which WiFi6 Router?

[CrackDown]

I've switched things around a bit and tried the powerline adapters in dedicated sockets. I'm still only getting around 60mbps, but I presume it's because the sockets are basically at opposite corners of the house. At least with this set up, my PC can connect to the now-access point router via wifi (as well as the headset) and it doesn't seem to get knocked off anymore. I cancelled the PCIe card and ordered a wifi repeater, so tomorrow I can try that, repeating the wifi from downstairs and connecting it to the WAN port of my router via ethernet, and then having my PC plugged into the same router via ethernet. That should work, right?

Thanks

 

[Ravenger]

I've switched things around a bit and tried the powerline adapters in dedicated sockets. I'm still only getting around 60mbps, but I presume it's because the sockets are basically at opposite corners of the house. At least with this set up, my PC can connect to the now-access point router via wifi (as well as the headset) and it doesn't seem to get knocked off anymore. I cancelled the PCIe card and ordered a wifi repeater, so tomorrow I can try that, repeating the wifi from downstairs and connecting it to the WAN port of my router via ethernet, and then having my PC plugged into the same router via ethernet. That should work, right?

Thanks

I tried a 5ghz wifi repeater and though it's more reliable (doesn't completely lose signal) it's much more jittery and laggy than when I use the Quest right next to my main router, enough so it's unusable. I hope you have a better experience.

 

[andybird123]

You've already got a router, which should already be capable of being bonded to your router downstairs, adding another repeater isn't going to improve anything.

You've got a configuration issue, not a hardware issue.

What model of router is it?

 

[melmac]

You've already got a router, which should already be capable of being bonded to your router downstairs, adding another repeater isn't going to improve anything.

You've got a configuration issue, not a hardware issue.

What model of router is it?

The router he has for the Quest can't connect wirelessly to the router downstairs.

Sorry, forgot to add, his router for the quest is a TP-Link Archer AX6000

 

[melmac]

I tried a 5ghz wifi repeater and though it's more reliable (doesn't completely lose signal) it's much more jittery and laggy than when I use the Quest right next to my main router, enough so it's unusable. I hope you have a better experience.

He isn't going to be using the repeater for the Quest. He is using the repeater to bring the Wireless signal upstairs.

 

[andybird123]

The router he has for the Quest can't connect wirelessly to the router downstairs.

Sorry, forgot to add, his router for the quest is a TP-Link Archer AX6000

Nonsense, unless my £30 router supports something his brand new £250 router doesnt.

He needs to configure it as an access point, then set the ssid and password to the same as his downstairs 2.4ghz network.

He keeps trying to use his new router as a completely separate network, which is what is causing his problems.

 

[CrackDown]

Surely the AX6000 would need to be able to connect to the virgin router downstairs over wifi in order to feed the internet upstairs? There are no options for it to do that in the settings, only serve Wifi itself. Hence why I've ordered a repeater to get wifi upstairs and then feed the internet into the AX6000.

 

[andybird123]

Surely the AX6000 would need to be able to connect to the virgin router downstairs over wifi in order to feed the internet upstairs? There are no options for it to do that in the settings, only serve Wifi itself. Hence why I've ordered a repeater to get wifi upstairs and then feed the internet into the AX6000.

Set up the ax6000 as an access point (you might need to connect it via ethernet to do this), then set the ssid's and passwords to the SAME as the virgin router, (then pull the ethernet cable and move the router if you did)

Literally all WiFi routers since 80211n have supported this, I would be shocked if a brand new WiFi 6 router for nearly 300 notes doesn't

Ssid and password is the only setting you need, there is no "connect to my internet downstairs" button

 

[melmac]

Nonsense, unless my £30 router supports something his brand new £250 router doesnt.

He needs to configure it as an access point, then set the ssid and password to the same as his downstairs 2.4ghz network.

He keeps trying to use his new router as a completely separate network, which is what is causing his problems.

Don't know the router myself, but Crackdown said he tried to set it to connect wirelessly to the router downstairs but it didn't work.

 

[andybird123]

Don't know the router myself, but Crackdown said he tried to set it to connect wirelessly to the router downstairs but it didn't work.

No he hasnt, he keeps saying theres no setting for it, but all he needs is ssid and password, he just keeps refusing to set it up as an access point, he wants to use the DHCP server on the ax6000 for absolutely no reason

 

[CrackDown]

Right, I've figured something out. Making the access point SSID and passwords the same didn't work, but I found an option on the router called WDS (Wireless Distribution System), which essentially allowed me to connect the router to the Virgin one via Wifi. And it works! My PC is now wired to the router, but I still don't get anywhere near the speeds of my old Netgear wifi USB adapter (85mbps max now, whereas Netgear could get me 140-160mbps), but it might be the time of day etc. At least this way I don't need to faff around with powerline adapters, and I don't need that wifi repeater (that I've just cancelled).

Thanks all for your help. I've not messed about with routers for years, so it was a bit of an education going through this. Maybe I can start playing some VR games now

 

[ssmacc]

Hello All,

My messing about and findings:

PC is downstairs connected, I want to play the Quest 2 upstairs wirelessly

Hello All,

I'm unsure regarding Networking and have built up the following (when I say unsure, I mean I'm sure there is a better way of Networking the house). The image shows my Home Network all connected via Cat 7 (I know but it was only slightly more than Cat 6 for what I needed).

Further to the original post, I'd like to use the Quest 2 wirelessly in a different room than the Game PC, I did think I'd be able to connect the Honor 3 router directly to the Sky router and use a repeater, but it seems this is a bad idea, as there is only one cable running between the floors what's the best way to connect the Quest 2 wirelessly to the Game PC? The Game PC is in the sig has no inbuilt WiFi, furthermore the low powered PC acting as a server is on 24/7 running Plex to the whole house etc.

Any idea's?

After messing about this weekend, I think I've come up with acceptable settings:

Game PC - Switch - Router - Honor 3 (bridge mode, dedicated separate 5G SSID)- Wireless 5G to Quest 2
(Honor 3 is also connected to the Sky Router for the internet (WAN port))

This gives me 1200mb connection and latency 28-30ms in BeatSaber.

The below has approx the same latency but a 880mb connection (from memory, might be 860mb)
Game PC - Switch - Sky Router - Wireless 5G to Quest 2

Assume I'm better sticking with the higher connection given the latency is the same?

Games seem to play smooth to my eyes and look fantastic, Alyxa in particular obviously looks and plays superb.

I was worried about going via the switch downstairs but given little choice without another cable, but happy with the result so far...out of interest what latency's are people getting?

Cheers,

 

[melmac]

No he hasnt, he keeps saying theres no setting for it, but all he needs is ssid and password, he just keeps refusing to set it up as an access point, he wants to use the DHCP server on the ax6000 for absolutely no reason

Oh, I presumed he tried it and didn't work. It doesn't always work between every router.

 

[melmac]

Right, I've figured something out. Making the access point SSID and passwords the same didn't work, but I found an option on the router called WDS (Wireless Distribution System), which essentially allowed me to connect the router to the Virgin one via Wifi. And it works! My PC is now wired to the router, but I still don't get anywhere near the speeds of my old Netgear wifi USB adapter (85mbps max now, whereas Netgear could get me 140-160mbps), but it might be the time of day etc. At least this way I don't need to faff around with powerline adapters, and I don't need that wifi repeater (that I've just cancelled).

Thanks all for your help. I've not messed about with routers for years, so it was a bit of an education going through this. Maybe I can start playing some VR games now

Glad you got something sorted and saved a bit of cash at the same time

The difference in speed might be purely down to location. Moving even a small distance can make a massive difference to the connection speed. Sometimes even moving the Antennas can make a difference.

Yes, play some games now, maybe you should redo the latency testing now and see if it has improved any?

 

[melmac]

Assume I'm better sticking with the higher connection given the latency is the same?

Yeah, stick to whichever connection gives you the lowest latency. Try a few difference games.

What are your settings in Virtual desktop? Your Latency in Beat Saber is pretty good. What's it like in Alyx?

 

[ssmacc]

Yeah, stick to whichever connection gives you the lowest latency. Try a few difference games.

What are your settings in Virtual desktop? Your Latency in Beat Saber is pretty good. What's it like in Alyx?

Hi,

Not sure which settings you're after, but I've changed:
Under Settings (Virtual Desktop)
VR Graphic Quality to High
FPS to 90
VR bitrate jumps about but 104 Mbps is the highest I've seen.

The rest are on the default.

Does that give you what you need, what should these be? (I've little to no idea!)

 

[melmac]

Hi,

Not sure which settings you're after, but I've changed:
Under Settings (Virtual Desktop)
VR Graphic Quality to High
FPS to 90
VR bitrate jumps about but 104 Mbps is the highest I've seen.

The rest are on the default.

Does that give you what you need, what should these be? (I've little to no idea!)

Yeah, thanks, you are using the "automatically set bitrate" option in the Streamer menu? If I use 104Mbs my latency tanks!!

What's your Latency like in Alyx?

 

[ssmacc]

Yeah, thanks, you are using the "automatically set bitrate" option in the Streamer menu? If I use 104Mbs my latency tanks!!

What's your Latency like in Alyx?

My misses is trying to get through a door with a multi-tool and a globe, one of the puzzles, the latency has dropped to ~55, still very playable (she's not great in VR and I don't know how I can view the latency while I'm in a "action" section!

It's still very playable...how does that compare to you and anyone else who's tried it?

 

[melmac]

My misses is trying to get through a door with a multi-tool and a globe, one of the puzzles, the latency has dropped to ~55, still very playable (she's not great in VR and I don't know how I can view the latency while I'm in a "action" section!

It's still very playable...how does that compare to you and anyone else who's tried it?

On the other thread talking about Virtual desktop performance people seem to be getting 33ms and lower.

If it's perfectly playable then no point in changing anything. You could try enabling sliced encoding if you do notice some lag.

 

[ssmacc]

On the other thread talking about Virtual desktop performance people seem to be getting 33ms and lower.

If it's perfectly playable then no point in changing anything. You could try enabling sliced encoding if you do notice some lag.

Cheers, I'll have a play over the coming week and see if I can hit 30ish, although as you say, it's perfectly playable (to me) now so I'm in no rush.

I think direct from the Sky Router may have less latency, do you know what (if any) the difference between ~800 and odd vs 1200mb connection speed would be and how this would manifest itself?

Thanks for your knowledge so far, much appreciated!