Lol. This thread
Quit smoking. Vape good or bad.
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Lol. This thread
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With all due respect, we can't really go without saying at the minute.
For example, e-Liquid contains formaldehyde... or at least contains the chemicals that make up formaldehyde, but it only becomes formaldehyde *if* you set fire to it (which ecigs and vapers do NOT do). However, newspapers conveniently stop talking after the '...' part and so everyone is taken in. That's why we have to be specific about it.
I want that on a t-shirt - "I rage-quit smoking"!
Seriously, I was enraged by the price, so switched to vaping instead!
The 'this guy next to me vapes, should I be worried' when replied to by 'no it's fine' the descend into but how do you know? Where the research?
Apparently the WHO officially advocated continuing with cigarettes instead of vaping because, among other things, tobacco tax generates a significant income for nations... and you can always put the tax up!
Ja, TELL me about it!!
I once ceased smoking for 3 months going Cold Turkey. Only re-started to spite my girlfriend (now ex) at the time.
However, the Mrs quit last year (partly CT, partly through being ill for 2 months and unable to manage a single drag anyway) and is now one of the most preachy anti-vaping ex-smokers I've ever met. It's like living in the Daily Mail, man...
Non-smokers, eh... I'd outright quit smoking, if I didn't think I'd become one!!
Ooh... are you allowed to reveal which one(s)?
Several regulatory bodies, including Trading Standards, are actually spit-hot on this at the minute.
I find the biggest objections to passive vaping are that no-one likes smelling the lavender or popcorn ones, and the ion-sensing smoke alarms are easily triggered by it.
Part of me wants to get the bacon-flavoured one to shut them up, but it tastes like armpit!!
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Probably the most stupid thing I've read all day.
We don't have 50 years of what happens when humans use smartphones either is using them "stupid" as well?
All did was tell you that passive vaping is not going to kill you... yes research is in its youth. But we find out the dangers of the stuff we eat/ take on a daily basis, then contradicting statements there after.
Considering it is a lot healthier than smoking, you can then draw conclusions from that.
If you don't like the fog (and I don't blame you) take it up with your employer.
I was referring to nicotine. Not vaping with that one. Nicotine in reasonable dosages is much the same as caffeine.
You can have a go at guessing.
I've done the labels for quite a few different brands out there.
Yep, the main ones I have in mind are the European court ones, as they directly influence my work with regards to making sure the product packagings I design are compliant.
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Smartphones use radio waves, which have been used for ~150 years. I'm guessing that you didn't know that, it's never too late to learn things.
Is there extensive research in to the frequencies used?
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What happened with all that phones microwave your brain thing anyway?
We all forgot about it, because of the phones microwaving our brains...
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Thought as much. Oh well...
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs193/en/
A large number of studies have been performed over the last two decades to assess whether mobile phones pose a potential health risk. To date, no adverse health effects have been established as being caused by mobile phone use.
... results of animal studies consistently show no increased cancer risk for long-term exposure to radiofrequency fields.
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpres...-whats-so-special-about-the-visible-spectrum/
Radio is too low-energy and has too long a wavelength to be able to move electrons from one energy state to another.
This bit is important because many cancers are caused by errors in the DNA, which can be caused by high energy radiation.
Enjoy.
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Looks like you've killed the thread, I don't think they considered the chance that there might have been extensive research in the area of radiowaves.
Must be all that vaping killing their brain cells.
I went on Champix at a time when in realty I didn't really want to pack in smoking TBH it worked like a charm. I arrived at the Chemist & had to wait outside while I finished the last cigarette in a now empty packet.
iirc I was encouraged to continue smoking for a week or so more, I didn't, albeit I did after 18 weeks start smoking again <<<-----Nutter
During the time I was taking champix I had no regrets or withdrawal symptoms whatsoever. This was after smoking 40 a day for about 45 years. Why did you start again I hear some folks say.
My Daughter on a visit accidently dropped an half smoked packet, like a plonker I thought, well the odd one won't hurt.
To be fair though, IMO champix is very effective, albeit you've always got to be on the alert for the little demons at the back of your mind.
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Is vaping safer for the smoker/vaper? No idea, internets full of discussion, my view is we'll find out in 50 years time when we all start dropping (or not as the case may be) of lung cancer, till then jury's out.
Is it ok indoors? Depends, in the home, well you smoke in the home, in the car it might be easier to handle (and less risk of burning stuff) than a normal cig but tbh its probably just as bad as eating/drinking/mobile phones etc. At work/in public? I'm not so sure, i'd maybe say yes if you had your own office but if it's an open office environment definite no no because there'll always be some spoilsport who hates it and annoying co workers like that probably not the best idea.
Is it ok indoors? Depends, in the home, well you smoke in the home, in the car it might be easier to handle (and less risk of burning stuff) than a normal cig but tbh its probably just as bad as eating/drinking/mobile phones etc. At work/in public? I'm not so sure, i'd maybe say yes if you had your own office but if it's an open office environment definite no no because there'll always be some spoilsport who hates it and annoying co workers like that probably not the best idea.
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It's quite obviously a lot healthier than smoking and while it's quite likely the passive smoke is not harmful, vapers need to stop kidding themselves and believing these so called sources with no credibility at all. I think it's great that people are finding a much safer alternative and have no problem at all with that.
Problem is, I find that it doesn't stop people still being ignorant asses and blowing the contents of their lungs over me still. "Oh, but it's not harmful too you". Maybe, but it still isn't very nice even if it does smell of roses/bloody fairies or whatever!!!
Problem is, I find that it doesn't stop people still being ignorant asses and blowing the contents of their lungs over me still. "Oh, but it's not harmful too you". Maybe, but it still isn't very nice even if it does smell of roses/bloody fairies or whatever!!!
95% cleaner, You can blantantly tell by the huge difference in your own body just by swapping over. Not to mention vaping is a bad word because nicotine is only one of many many herbs and liquids you can vaporize.
Chamomile, St johns wort, Lemonbalm, Valerian, Hops, Sage, Yabba, Lavender, Thyme, Cama,, Diamana, Peppermint. That was just a small list of what you can buy not to mention in Murica your perscription for "pain relief" too. All of the above is harmless so how they would ban vaping idk?
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Thats your experience, i do not share this experience so i'm afraid i cannot agree with your standpoint. Thats not the same as saying you're wrong, or that you're right, just that i disagree.
I tend to assume when vaping is concerned (especially given the context of this thread) that it concerns nicotine. Although you are correct there's many things that the term could also cover (perhaps a new term is needed to distinguish).
Problem is, I find that it doesn't stop people still being ignorant asses and blowing the contents of their lungs over me still. "Oh, but it's not harmful too you". Maybe, but it still isn't very nice even if it does smell of roses/bloody fairies or whatever!!!
^a perfect example for my post, i think there's very much a cyclist/motorist thing going on with it tbh, yes you do get 'that guy' who'll fill any public building with clouds just because it's not illegal, but on the other hand there's far too many of the 'smokings bad for you' parade (as if us smokers weren't entirely aware) who'll tell you off just because they feel some sense of civic duty to do so.