Quit smoking. Vape good or bad.

[ttaskmaster]

As far as the OP is concerned, there's no point vaping if you no longer smoke. Lungs are made to breathe clean air.

And yet a number of long-time ex-smokers are taking up 0% Nic vaping, particularly pipe smokers, because they still have cravings after many many years...
Some just like to fondle their bulbous ends....

 

[dirtybeatfreak]

@ ttaskmaster

Like a broken record, you know exactly what my point is. Bit strange how someone else understood in one post what I were getting at. Bored are we??

I'm not going to even entertain you. Grow up.

 

[Devrij]

And yet a number of long-time ex-smokers are taking up 0% Nic vaping, particularly pipe smokers, because they still have cravings after many many years...
Some just like to fondle their bulbous ends....

Haha, well if that's their fancy then go for it. I wouldn't ever suggest it, but as long as they go in eyes open then crack on.

 

[IrishChr1s]

I have a cheeky cig when drinking, this is from 15 a day, I started vaping around 9 months and while I vape everyday almost immediately I noticed an improvement in cardiovascular exercises such as Badminton and indoor football

Will I ever kick the nicotine? I don't know, but I know I'm happier vaping rather than smoking

I think the key is not to vape as much as you want but limit it to as much or less than you'd smoke, at the start the ecig never left my mouth, at least with a cigarette I'd know when I was done and needed another one

 

[jpod]

I really like Shisha, but the tobacco version is much worse than cigs and the tobacco-less is only minus the nicotine according to the journal evidence. Still has the toxins.

Interesting that so many posters have quit cigarettes by vaping, and quit and had health gains. That is a desirable outcome. It is very difficult to quit cigarettes and it often takes several attempts to be successful.

But there still remains the option of quitting outright rather than swapping to another habit which has a financial burden and it is unlikely to impart any health benefit whatsoever.

What is the annual cost? Anyone worked it out?

 

[ttaskmaster]

Like a broken record, you know exactly what my point is. Bit strange how someone else understood in one post what I were getting at. Bored are we?? I'm not going to even entertain you. Grow up.

Make me!!
If I sound like a broken record, perhaps that's because you're not getting what I'm saying...? Or just don't care to?
And yes, I am bored, but not as you have already decided I am - I know exactly what YOUR point is, but yet again you're not even bothering to consider mine, even when directly asked... so yeah, I'm ignoring yours!

Haha, well if that's their fancy then go for it. I wouldn't ever suggest it, but as long as they go in eyes open then crack on.

They were warned.

I think the key is not to vape as much as you want but limit it to as much or less than you'd smoke

I found that success depended a lot on device, setup and liquid. You need something that leaves you feeling like you've just smoked a full-on cig, ideally while doing as much of everything else that you'd do when smoking, be it having a coffee, going outside, hanging with the same people, whatever.

Interesting that so many posters have quit cigarettes by vaping, and quit and had health gains. That is a desirable outcome.

The body repairs the damage quite well, it seems... not that there's any proof, or anything!

What is the annual cost? Anyone worked it out?

For me, that'd be £1,030, which buys me 2 devices, a years supply of atomizers and a year of liquid. Self-mixing is definitely cheaper!!
I'd spend about £1,400 on rollies, as a rough guess. If I'd smoked pre-made, it'd be about £2,500!!
My app reckons I'll save £986 a year by vaping... we shall see.

 

[Devrij]

I really like Shisha, but the tobacco version is much worse than cigs and the tobacco-less is only minus the nicotine according to the journal evidence. Still has the toxins.

Interesting that so many posters have quit cigarettes by vaping, and quit and had health gains. That is a desirable outcome. It is very difficult to quit cigarettes and it often takes several attempts to be successful.

But there still remains the option of quitting outright rather than swapping to another habit which has a financial burden and it is unlikely to impart any health benefit whatsoever.

What is the annual cost? Anyone worked it out?

I spend about 50 quid every 6 months of mixing supplies, maybe 75 if I fancy new flavours. Maybe 5 quid on wire and wick. I might buy 4 new batteries a year at 60 quid total. Maybe treat myself to a new atomiser for around 20 quid. That's it for me. I used to spend about 60 quid a month on rolling tobacco, God knows how much that would cost 4 years later. So it's a very noticeable saving for me.

 

[Greebo]

Same here. I spend about 400 per year on equipment and juices. I spent 4000 a year on fags. Savings are 3600 a year plus I don't cough anymore, not short of breath doing light exercise, sense of taste and smell has returned to normal and I hate the smell of cigarettes now after 6 months

 

[Frozennova]

My spend this since I started vaping is somewhere around the following

Mods - 200
Tanks/Drippers - 150
Wire/Cotton - 20
Batteries - 60
Juice - 400


So around 850, I've got enough mods/tanks/drippers that unless something really takes my fancy I don't need to buy anything and I've got enough supplies to keep me stocked on liquids for 6 months (Monthly spend around £30)

I've would have spent around £1500 a year on tobacco

 

[jpod]

Thanks for the replies, interesting.

 

[stopper]

I probably would have ended up vaping if they had been around when I quit 5 years ago.
But I just read this book, and never had the urge to light up again.

 

[Devrij]

I probably would have ended up vaping if they had been around when I quit 5 years ago.
But I just read this book, and never had the urge to light up again.

I read that. While it made sense and I finished it full of enthusiasm, I was smoking again 2 days later. I had terrible anxiety when I quit smoking cold turkey. So for me vaping has been awesome to get around that (I've been addressing the anxiety issue since then), but I know a lot of people have found that book really helpful. I remember the tight shoes analogy was particularly good.

 

[Twirlywoos]

What is the annual cost? Anyone worked it out?

That depends on a lot of things.

-Some people have turned vaping into a hobby and must have the latest innovations and believe me there is always something new out. However ecigs/epipes all essentially work on the same principal so you can buy simple or elaborate devices.
-Some people go down the DIY route and make their own ecigs or eliquids
-Some people like to tinker so buy rebuildable atomizers where they make their own coils and wicks.
-Some people buy original equipment only and stay away from the Chinese clones which are much cheaper.
- Eliquid consumption varies between each person and depends on the occasion. For example on a Friday night I can vape more just because I am gaming.
-Elquid prices vary a lot from once company to another.

There are many category of users so the cost can vary a lot. However I can guarantee it is still cheaper than smoking. I smoked 20 a day that's around £2350 a year.

Given that we are on a computer enthusiast forum let's assume we all like to take control, have the latest gadget and tinker, you will need:

- Device (EFusion DNA200 £120 I assume that this will be the price for the dual 18650 version)
- Atomizer (Aromamizer RDTA £30)
- Cotton (Muji Unbleached Cotton 140 Pads £5)
- Wire (50m spool Titanium wire £12)
- Charger (Nitecore D4 DigiCharger £20)
- Batteries (4XSamsung 30Q £24)
- Eliquid (Snake Oil 100ml £35)
- Tool Kit and Resistance reading tool (Totally optional)
- Total £246

These are UK prices from reputable stores, buying some from abroad can save you more. I vape 3-5ml a day. The wires and cotton will easily outlast a year. After the initial cost all you need is eliquid to see you through the year.

 

[jpod]

Thanks, it is cheaper than smoking.

I can see the appeal to fellas, building that techy stuff up would be fun. I am not tempted though.

 

[dirtychinchilla]

I agree that using vape is less expensive than smoking cigarettes. I used to smoke about 10 years. Now I'm vaping. Also, I noticed improvements in my health.
I spend on juice about 20-30$ per month. Most of the stuff i found on https://www.migvapor.com/e-juice. Something I buy in local stores too.

The irony is that this forum is primarily full of members within the UK who won't be ordering your vape products from Chicago!

 

[LabR@t]

Time is out on vaping, popcorn lung I have read about being linked to it

. According to the American Lung Association, using electronic cigarettes or vaping, particularly the flavored varieties, can cause popcorn lung

 

[ttaskmaster]

NVM

 

[jamief]

They don't exhale anything harmful? So no nicotine? How can you say for sure when you surely don't know what happens to all the random fluids people use (there's a ridiculous variety... have they all been tested)? And compared to usual background levels in what context? Eg. obviously by the road on a central London street during rush hour the air quality's not going to be the best, but in an office..? Link me up?

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/hhe/reports/pdfs/2015-0107-3279.pdf

 

[Relentless81]

Time is out on vaping, popcorn lung I have read about being linked to it

Ancient information, I appreciate you don't study the subject of vaping but stuff like this is annoying because it will put people off quiting smoking and moving onto vaping, it isn't an issue, even if diacatyl is present in the flavourings used which would be rare it would be a fraction of the amount of what is found in a cigarette

As for "clouds" there are two types of vaper, discreet low wattage devices that mostly mimick a cigarette which is what I use and high wattage cloud chucking devices which seem to be the in thing with a lot of people, not all people some just prefer to vape that way, better flavour or more comfortable for them or whatever but it does seem to give vaping a reason for some to frown upon

 

[Gee]

Time is out on vaping, popcorn lung I have read about being linked to it

Bit late to the party with that one mate. Diacetyl is fine to consume, it's in margarine, beer (stouts, porters etc.) but inhaling it in massive quantities is bad.

Certain E-Liquid concentrate manufacturers have used it for a while, only recently (past 3-4 years) have they moved away from it and onto other compounds; Acetoin/Acetyl Proponyl. Both of which give an e-liquid that buttery mouthfeel which is the dominant taste in bakery/custard flavours.

You'd need to vaping a serious amount of liquid to get anywhere near the dangerous levels that the popcorn factory workers had, considering most of them that did have symptoms of it, had been there for 30+ years.