Raptor Lake Leaks + Intel 4 developments

[Dave2150]

will just be highly binned 13900ks. basically anyone right now buying a 13900k is getting the bottom crap of their pile.

Can't see it, that'll not be even a 5% performance increase. Even the dumbest guy at Intel would surely realize it'll be a huge flop and won't compete with Zen43Dcache.

I think it'll need to be either:

1. Further improved 10nm process, with at least +200Mhz over 13900KS (so 6.4Ghz turbo)
2. Extra cores. Perhaps they can tweak the design for 10 or 12 P cores? Extra E cores would be boring at this point.

 

[OC2000]

Can't see it, that'll not be even a 5% performance increase. Even the dumbest guy at Intel would surely realize it'll be a huge flop and won't compete with Zen43Dcache.

I think it'll need to be either:

1. Further improved 10nm process, with at least +200Mhz over 13900KS (so 6.4Ghz turbo)
2. Extra cores. Perhaps they can tweak the design for 10 or 12 P cores? Extra E cores would be boring at this point.

Perhaps the Rapter Lake S refresh, but definitely the 13900KS will be higher binned 13900k with P core SP over 115 or similar.

 

[Dave2150]

Perhaps the Rapter Lake S refresh, but definitely the 13900KS will be higher binned 13900k with P core SP over 115 or similar.

I was talking about Raptor Lake refresh. This is different to the 13900KS. 13900KS has a 200Mhz bump over the 13900k and is due out soon.

 

[OC2000]

I was talking about Raptor Lake refresh. This is different to the 13900KS. 13900KS has a 200Mhz bump over the 13900k and is due out soon.

Ah sorry, yeah you are probably right.

 

[deuse]

Is it normal for 13900K P cores(2 of them) to got o 100c @6ghz all P cores when testing or playing games?

I do have a 420mm AIO.

 

[Dave2150]

Is it normal for 13900K P cores(2 of them) to got o 100c @6ghz all P cores when testing or playing games?

I do have a 420mm AIO.

Try reducing voltage if you can, or playing with LLC

 

[deuse]

Try reducing voltage if you can, or playing with LLC

Thank you

It's at 1.347 when @6GHz
I will try to lower it. But I think the AIO can not get rid of 300w+ of heat fast enough.

 

[Dave2150]

Thank you

It's at 1.347 when @6GHz
I will try to lower it. But I think the AIO can not get rid of 300w+ of heat fast enough.

Are you using a contact frame? May be at a point where you need to delid the CPU to enhance the thermal transfer, as that's the next weak point.

 

[deuse]

Are you using a contact frame? May be at a point where you need to delid the CPU to enhance the thermal transfer, as that's the next weak point.

I have a MSI Z690 unfiy.

Do you think that would be better with a contact frame?
Still trying the LLC.

 

[Dave2150]

I have a MSI Z690 unfiy.

Do you think that would be better with a contact frame?
Still trying the LLC.

The thermal grizzly contact frame reduced my core temperatures between 5-11C, so 100% worth it when pushing overclocks.

 

[MartinPrince]

Thank you

It's at 1.347 when @6GHz
I will try to lower it. But I think the AIO can not get rid of 300w+ of heat fast enough.

The Thermalright contact frame can be boughr for ~£10/$10 and works every bit as good as the Thermal Griizzly one according to Gamers Nexus.

Also comes in 4 colours but hard to see once the cooler is on.

If you have a 13900K it makes basic good sense to get one as it does improve the contact area.

 

[OC2000]

Stable 8200 CL34, couldn't get 8400 CL36 stable on these TG 7200 sticks even though it would pass multiple stress tests. For some reason it crash on idle or at login screen. Will try G Skills 8000 kit when it arrives.

 

[MartinPrince]

Stable 8200 CL34, couldn't get 8400 CL36 stable on these TG 7200 sticks even though it would pass multiple stress tests. For some reason it crash on idle or at login screen. Will try G Skills 8000 kit when it arrives.

Nice. What are your AIDA64 memory scores?

 

[OC2000]

Still room for improving second and third timings, TRFC for example.

 

[Silent_Scone]

 

[One 48]

Is 13900 Raptor Lake? seeing a lot of talk about them in this thread.

Whats the next best thing from Intel?

On AMD 5950X here and RTX 3090, not suffering in any way, but keen to see when its prime to upgrade again?

DDR5 I know will be needed next upgrade.

 

[One 48]

Deuse, are you saying you are clocked to 6Ghz, wow, is that on all cores 24/7 stable and could I run Microsoft FS 2020 this way?

 

[Grim5]

13900k all core 6.2ghz. Better than water cooling

 

[deuse]

Deuse, are you saying you are clocked to 6Ghz, wow, is that on all cores 24/7 stable and could I run Microsoft FS 2020 this way?

I don't know about FS 2020.

I have took it down to 5.8 on all P cores now.
Got 3 artic P fans so I can push\pull. But I don't think my 420mm artic 2 will cope with nearly 400W of heat.

 

[OC2000]

Ignore