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Raptor Lake Leaks + Intel 4 developments

uscool said:
At the time of the releases what we're the prices on 10th and 11th gen ? When zen3 was out that was available from intel ?
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When zen 3 was out you could get an 8 core 10th gen way cheaper than the shelf price of the 5600X. In the summer of 2020 the 10700f was frequently below 300 euros. The 5600x was above 400.
 
Bencher said:
When zen 3 was out you could get an 8 core 10th gen way cheaper than the shelf price of the 5600X. In the summer of 2020 the 10700f was frequently below 300 euros. The 5600x was above 400.
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Anyway I probably won't upgrade till when 14th gen and 2nd CPU release probably on AM5 and then decide to go with :) no loyalty to either :)
 
AMD claimed 15% faster single core and 35% multi core in cinebench R23 for 16 core Zen4 over 5950X. We know that 16 core Zen 4 has a 5,5ghz single core boost.
Cinebench R20 ST
5950X = 635
Zen4 5,5ghz = 730~
RPL 5,5ghz = 826

CBR23
5950X 1640
Zen4 5,5ghz = 1890~
RPL 5,5ghz = 2 156

I don't think that there is much IPC gain for Zen4 in tasks which aren't using DDR5 bandwidth or AVX-512.

Raptor Lake should have a good 13% lead in cinebench over Zen4. clock vs clock.
 

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10% or greater ST - nice
~40% MT - Amazing

Powerdraw for MT workloads gonna be crazy, though the performance extracted it also ridiculously high. Nice improvement before Meteor Lake smashes this to pieces ;)
 
420w ? Just a refresh I guess needing to pump more power to squeeze performance with clock frequency and adding few more e cores ? ridiculous amount of power, but it's got to the point can't keep pumping more watts time for some invention

Reminds me of the rumours with Nvidia upcoming new gen power increase at some point they will have to stop and find other ways to get performance
 
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uscool said:
420w ? Just a refresh I guess needing to pump more power to squeeze performance with clock frequency and adding few more e cores ? ridiculous amount of power, but it's got to the point can't keep pumping more watts time for some invention

Reminds me of the rumours with Nvidia upcoming new gen power increase at some point they will have to stop and find other ways to get performance
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The power draw is expected. It’s the same package and node with 8more ecores so you’re adding more current. Current = heat and thus you get what you get.

I’m sure when we test power draw with ecores disabled and 8p vs 8p with voltage and frequency matched it’ll be similar. From what I know, DLVR didn’t make the cut. Maybe that’ll be a launch surprise but I doubt it.
 

Intel Core i9-13900K pre-production sample tested, 10% faster than Core i9-12900K in single-core tests​


Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-c...ster-than-core-i9-12900k-in-single-core-tests

Videocardz said:
The reviewer claims that the 13900K is on average 10% faster in single-core tests than 12900KF and up to 35% faster in multi-threaded workloads. Results depend on the test, but Raptor Lake appears to go as fast as 46.34% in multi-core CPU-Z than Alder Lake CPU, but also 22% in Geekbench 5 MT.
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House said:
Well the deal i got on a 1200w PSU is looking like money well spent but the 360 AIO maybe lacking for super loads, sure it will be fine for gaming though.
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Dont worry, the same has been said the last few gens about all of intels cpus. The 10900k was supposedly consuming 400 watts, the 12900k supposedly needed a custom WC to work properly etcera. In the meanwhile im using a small single tower air cooler for the 12900k, keeps it below 76c at stock CBR23 ;)
 
SmokSmog said:
We know that 16 core Zen 4 has a 5,5ghz single core boost.
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No, we don't know this. And based on the gaming demo we saw, this is very likely to be incorrect.

The 5.5GHz demo was multiple cores, with "most threads around 5.5, depends on scene/game" (as confirmed by Robert Hallock). If the traditional CPU pattern of single core clocks being higher than multicore continues with Zen 4, then single core will be higher than 5.5GHz.
 
So, I think the big news is that the single threaded performance of the 13900K and 12900K is basically identical at the same clockspeeds:

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I find it quite incredible that several people were insisting that 'Raptor Cove' cores were a thing, and that there would be an IPC increase. Despite no indication of this on Intel's core roadmap.

So, what you will actually get is an increase in cache, and the potential to clock the CPU higher, with high end cooling.
 
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Grim5 said:
With 400w power draw it could be a 720mm aio and it would still throttle, the block couldn't get the heat out no matter the size of the radiator
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Yea, it's the die size thats the problem. As far as im aware the tr version of the u14 can cool close to 300w because of the bigger die on the trs
 
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