Soldato
As I said, "clearly surpass the X3D" not a 50/50 race where 50% of the time AMD is faster and 50% of the time Intel is faster.
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As I said, "clearly surpass the X3D" not a 50/50 race where 50% of the time AMD is faster and 50% of the time Intel is faster.
Caporegime
Quite often that's tech journalists being sociotropic, they don't want to upset any of their audience because they depend on them for income.
Steve Walton is one of the worst for this, nothing he reviews is ever more than a few % faster than its competitor, Ryzen 3060 vs 9900K, 5% to the 9900K, really?
He sets his review up to fit a predetermined result, its why i keep saying of people like that they are a waste of time, their journalism tell us precisely nothing at all. Its just a means for them to generate an income.
Look at all of his slides, they are all too 50/50 perfect aren't they?
Nah, how does he set up his reviews to achieve a predetermined result when he runs the same benchmarks on the same component categories? Especially on the CPU reviews in the past year or two I’ve heard HUB clearly say if one CPU blows another out of the water.
Minimal differences in the charts in games? Well, yes, in the majority of instances games are not CPU bound.
Lastly, where’s your alternative data that proves how wrong his results are?
Caporegime
I didn't say his results were wrong, i said they were contrived.
This was one of the reasons I got a 3600 instead of a 9900k as at the resolution I game at there was no real discernible difference.
Most people want to see how how a certain hardware upgrade will effect them in their use case and not which CPU is faster at 720p with a 3090ti. This is why I like HW unboxed because he focuses on the real world benefits rather than the extremes.
Caporegime
I did the same, there is nothing wrong with it, it was a good CPU.
But i would not want to be running it today, i would have been much better off with the 9900K. I might not even have botherd with the 5800X and saved myself £440.
Soldato
Sure, stock out of the box they are neck and neck, the results depend more on the games tested rather than which cpu is actually better. But nothing gets close to a tuned 12900k, with 7000c30 ram. It can sustain some stupidly high clocks in gaming, like 5.4ghz all core and 5.7 for up to 2 cores.Pretty sure he means 3d on zen4 ?
He meant pure gaming perspective
Is it though beating the current one isn't it pretty much close affair to say one massively ahead ? Also it does use less power whilst doing it
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You say that but I didn't find the gap much between the 3600 and 5800X with a 3080 at 1440p and your only rocking a 2070 from what I remember so the gap should be even less.
Caporegime
You say that but I didn't find the gap much between the 3600 and 5800X with a 3080 at 1440p and your only rocking a 2070 from what I remember so the gap should be even less.
2070 Super.
Anything up to 50% faster
Maybe it's because your running 1080p and the games you play then are outliers but this is not what I found as shown in the benchmarks.
Caporegime
So your experience is different to mine.
Soldato
That's just dumb. Why are they clocking the E cores even higher? They were already outside their efficiency curve with alderlake, and now they took it to the extreme.Plus, they doubled the amount of e cores, do they really need to overclock them as well?
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Can confirm. Aida fpu only is rough. Rest of the aida stress tests are useless though.
Voltage doesn’t seem tuned either. That’s a decent amount of load vcore for 5.2
So we can tune lower for sure
Voltage doesn’t seem tuned either. That’s a decent amount of load vcore for 5.2
So we can tune lower for sure
It's a stock CPU with out of the box settings, so yes, you can tune better.
Latest benchmarks from engineering sample 13900k.
On average FPS, overall there seems to be very minor improvements but there are some outliers. Minimum FPS sees a reasonable gain at lower resolutions. Power draw seems to be significantly higher in games, still not super high given my 5950x likes to draw 120w in many games but it is higher than 12th gen
On average FPS, overall there seems to be very minor improvements but there are some outliers. Minimum FPS sees a reasonable gain at lower resolutions. Power draw seems to be significantly higher in games, still not super high given my 5950x likes to draw 120w in many games but it is higher than 12th gen
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Latest benchmarks from engineering sample 13900k.
On average FPS, overall there seems to be very minor improvements but there are some outliers. Minimum FPS sees a reasonable gain at lower resolutions. Power draw seems to be significantly higher in games, still not super high given my 5950x likes to draw 120w in many games but it is higher than 12th gen
It's 4.9 vs 5.5. So the deltas will be non existent once frequency matched for average fps. Naturally you can rightfully state the higher frequency is part of the upgrade. The mins getting a boost from the cache bump is nice to see however. IMC will be the key.
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Soldato
It was highly unlikely to offer a good upgrade to anyone who already bought ADL, unless they like tinkering, or maybe got a 12400 etc. With DDR5 price falling fast, and the potential for the much improved IMC in RPL, that is what will be interesting. People are starting to actually pay attention to power usage figures in a serious way now as well, and I've had a question about that just today and it's quite staggering just how little people know about costs to run something.