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Raptor Lake Leaks + Intel 4 developments

Bencher said:
Really? I get 360 at very high preset and around 383 or 393 something at low. Individual core OC up to 5.8 ghz 6600c32 ram, nothing fancy. Im sure someone with a better bin can break 400, mine is pretty average. No resolution scaling, just 720p, although it shouldnt matter when you are looking at cpugame. Clean windows, nvcp tweaks and heavily underclocking your GPU helps as well.
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How much do you score using the same settings in the screenshots posted by Robert?
 
I'm very interested in seeing gaming power consumption tests between Raptor Lake and Zen4.

The 12900k is more efficient than the 5950X in games, due to the efficient cores not needing as much power. Will this continue, or be reversed? Time will tell!

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Another thing to note is, the 12/13th gen isn't any cheaper for 8 (high power) cores than AMD + Zen 4. Also, Intel isn't rushing to release the cheaper locked models, so I kind hope they get smashed up by AMD this time around and learn from their mistake. Nor will we see cheaper LGA1700 B760 boards until next year, so 2 obvious advantages to an AMD build.

It's hard to recommend LGA1700 for a new PC build, maybe worth it but depends on cost. Sounds like the new boards will be DDR5 only, so I wonder how Intel will encourage people to make the switch to DDR5 (which benefits them in the long run)?
 
g67575 said:
Another thing to note is, the 12/13th gen isn't any cheaper for 8 (high power) cores than AMD + Zen 4. Also, Intel isn't rushing to release the cheaper locked models, so I kind hope they get smashed up by AMD this time around and learn from their mistake. Nor will we see cheaper LGA1700 B760 boards until next year, so 2 obvious advantages to an AMD build.

It's hard to recommend LGA1700 for a new PC build, maybe worth it but depends on cost. Sounds like the new boards will be DDR5 only, so I wonder how Intel will encourage people to make the switch to DDR5 (which benefits them in the long run)?
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Do you have confirmation new boards are DDR5 only? Last leak I saw said that was Intel's preference but motherboard manufacturers weren't going along with that
 
g67575 said:
It's possible, I might be out of date.
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I do agree with you though. If you're building brand new and aren't intending to keep the PC for 6+ years you probably wouldn't want to buy DDR4 and a raptor lake CPU and board. And if you're buying DDR5 for a brand new build at this point AMDs socket has more life in it
 

Intel Core i9-13900K single-core reportedly boosts up to 6.5 GHz with very light load (LN2)​


Source: https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-ro...quipped-with-core-i9-13900k-cpu-and-20-cooler


Videocardz said:
Upcoming Rocket Lake-S flagship CPU known as Core i9-13900K is now being tested by overclockers. Roberto Sampaio is now active on the overclocking forums, sharing some details that would otherwise not be available before the embargo.

He claims that Core i9-13900K does not really consume 300 or 400W with overclocking. The CPU goes up to 200W at full load and up to 250W with overclocking. In fact, even this cheap $20 air-cooler is sufficient to keep the CPU under 90°C.
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Crazy if true - 13th gen seems to run cool and quiet, while Zen4 rumours are of 94DC+ on 360mm AIO. WTB Official reviews so we can see which is true!
 
g67575 said:
No one will be interested in buying a 13900K when Meteor Lake and the generation after that are released.
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I don’t think everyone thinks like that. For some people it’s not about the absolute best or fastest, rather how much of an upgrade it’s going to be for them specifically, and a 1300k or a 5800 might be just what they need at a good price.
 
possibly. But usually, the next gen CPU at a lower tier overtakes the current generation, and offers a better price/performance ratio. No reason why this won't happen with 'Intel 4' (meteor lake) and 'Intel 3' based CPUs.
 
What $20 cooler can deal with 200-250 watts of power and keep a 13900K under 90c as I want to buy it please and why does nobody know about this as this would make any cooler above $20 pretty much irrelevant

The 6.5ghz claim was a typo and the source thread posts have now been edited as the person doesnt want to get into trouble as hes apparently under a NDA but was happy to post info and spout bs. :rolleyes:
 
g67575 said:
possibly. But usually, the next gen CPU at a lower tier overtakes the current generation, and offers a better price/performance ratio. No reason why this won't happen with 'Intel 4' (meteor lake) and 'Intel 3' based CPUs.
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I can't see a 7600X overtaking a 12600k in MT let alone a 12700k.
 
So, buy an Intel CPU if you want more cores (and therefore multithreaded performance). It's not really a focus for AMD. I would guess that the max core count will improve on Ryzen CPUs, as the process technology (almost certainly TSMC) improves and matures, and demand for >8 cores gradually increases.
 
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