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I paid £180ish for my Ryzen 7 5700X! 
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RDNA 3 rumours Q3/4 2022
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Indeed. Bad move trying to buy it at that point and over paying. I waited a few months and once availability improved and there was a good deal I pounced. A mate of mine paid £100 more than me just 1-2 months before I got it.
It should last me a good 5 more years. I am hoping by then we can have a CPU that doubles single core performance.
People go on about being CPU bound and all that, but apart from single threaded games I can’t see this CPU struggling to hit the fps levels I require. I fps cap my games anyway
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Hype train picking up speed, AMD gonna smash Nvidia.
Hype train picking up speed, AMD gonna smash Nvidia.
Hopefully. Would be great to see Jensen lose a load of market share. Don’t trust Intel to deliver what’s needed to ever get any meaningful market share any time soon, so hopefully AMD can claw back as much as possible. Not that I am holding my breath, their pricing will likely get in the way of it.
I think I paid £400 for my 5800X a couple of weeks after launch, it was the right move because I needed it then, not a year later
Buying early and overpaying a little is not always a bad move. I had no PC at the time, had a 3080 sitting there, had 3 weeks of free time that I wanted to game. I could have wasted all of it time in the hope of a £100 discount a year down the road, or just overpay slightly and get on with my plans.
It should last me a good 5 more years. I am hoping by then we can have a CPU that doubles single core performance.
People go on about being CPU bound and all that, but apart from single threaded games I can’t see this CPU struggling to hit the fps levels I require. I fps cap my games anyway
5800X is within 3% of 7950X for 4K gaming (the resolution I game at). No point in upgrading just for that at all, regardless of GPU. It could be until Zen 6 or even Zen 7 that a CPU upgrade would make sense for 4K gaming.
My benchmark for upgrade though is 50% faster cores, 50% more cores, cost of £1000 for CPU/MB/128GB of ram.
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I don't care about smashing Nvidia unless it's in terms of sales because they offer good value cards.
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i got a 5800X3d for a 25% discount and will be using it on my X370 motherboard that i purchased in 2017, i am feeling jittery about bios upgrades though but if this goes through.. i would have used the platform for 7 years, not a bad bargain
Good point. If my CPU starts to struggle I'll probably just bite the bullet and move up to 4K. All about the GPU in the medium term and hopefully a lot more OLED monitors coming.I think I paid £400 for my 5800X a couple of weeks after launch, it was the right move because I needed it then, not a year later
Buying early and overpaying a little is not always a bad move. I had no PC at the time, had a 3080 sitting there, had 3 weeks of free time that I wanted to game. I could have wasted all of it time in the hope of a £100 discount a year down the road, or just overpay slightly and get on with my plans.
5800X is within 3% of 7950X for 4K gaming (the resolution I game at). No point in upgrading just for that at all, regardless of GPU. It could be until Zen 6 or even Zen 7 that a CPU upgrade would make sense for 4K gaming.
My benchmark for upgrade though is 50% faster cores, 50% more cores, cost of £1000 for CPU/MB/128GB of ram.
I think I paid £400 for my 5800X a couple of weeks after launch, it was the right move because I needed it then, not a year later
Buying early and overpaying a little is not always a bad move. I had no PC at the time, had a 3080 sitting there, had 3 weeks of free time that I wanted to game. I could have wasted all of it time in the hope of a £100 discount a year down the road, or just overpay slightly and get on with my plans.
5800X is within 3% of 7950X for 4K gaming (the resolution I game at). No point in upgrading just for that at all, regardless of GPU. It could be until Zen 6 or even Zen 7 that a CPU upgrade would make sense for 4K gaming.
My benchmark for upgrade though is 50% faster cores, 50% more cores, cost of £1000 for CPU/MB/128GB of ram.
I was on a R5 3600 and 4K so was not in a rush so waiting for prices to settle. Was not a year later, about 7-8 months
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Coming from the same site that confirmed that AMD was using the new connectors only a few days before as many others did too. So have AMD just shelved their stock with the new style connector or never had any cards made ? Because I don't believe such a manufacturing change was made so quickly and with cards in inventory, basically these so called changes or none changes means no cards have actually been made yet. So cards from AMD wont be seen till next year then at this rate.
Well, "next year" is only 8 weeks after they announce them, so not that long really.So cards from AMD wont be seen till next year then at this rate.
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When they reported they were using them, was that a leak or an official statement from AMD (or an employee)? Confirmation that they aren't using that connector type is coming from someone working at AMD so I would take that as fact. Whether or not it was ever the case they were using the new ATX3 connector is just a rumour.
Coming from the same site that confirmed that AMD was using the new connectors only a few days before as many others did too. So have AMD just shelved their stock with the new style connector or never had any cards made ? Because I don't believe such a manufacturing change was made so quickly and with cards in inventory, basically these so called changes or none changes means no cards have actually been made yet. So cards from AMD wont be seen till next year then at this rate.
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Coming from the same site that confirmed that AMD was using the new connectors only a few days before as many others did too. So have AMD just shelved their stock with the new style connector or never had any cards made ? Because I don't believe such a manufacturing change was made so quickly and with cards in inventory, basically these so called changes or none changes means no cards have actually been made yet. So cards from AMD wont be seen till next year then at this rate.
I would take it they never had the new connection in the first place. If this is the case then the early phase built units could already be getting boxed and shipped. It may have also only been Reference models first even if the AIB slap their badge on them, in which case some hopefully will be on the way to retailers. Maybe @Gibbo could hint something..
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Maybe the AIB's will be using the new connector for there cards, and the reference version will be dual or triple 8 pin. will be a reference card i am after any way.
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Coming from the same site that confirmed that AMD was using the new connectors only a few days before as many others did too. So have AMD just shelved their stock with the new style connector or never had any cards made ? Because I don't believe such a manufacturing change was made so quickly and with cards in inventory, basically these so called changes or none changes means no cards have actually been made yet. So cards from AMD wont be seen till next year then at this rate.
So AMD have used NV's 4090 launch as a "canary down the mine" then?
Very smart.
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I seriously doubt that AMD would change course like that, as it would mean re-laying out all their PCBs to suit a new connector. That's at least a 3 month process if you're cutting corners.
Coming from the same site that confirmed that AMD was using the new connectors only a few days before as many others did too. So have AMD just shelved their stock with the new style connector or never had any cards made ? Because I don't believe such a manufacturing change was made so quickly and with cards in inventory, basically these so called changes or none changes means no cards have actually been made yet. So cards from AMD wont be seen till next year then at this rate.
Chances are they just didn't want to go to a new connector that requires an adaptor. Adaptors mean higher BoM cost and more parts to fail. Connectors have a hugely higher failure rate than electronics, so it is a good design goal to avoid adding them if possible.
On the topic of the connector itself, there's nothing inherently wrong with what's being used by NVidia, but it does appear like they made a poor decision to run it right up into the rated current. I haven't personally gone through the datasheets, but the derate for bundled cores/pins can be pretty severe on smaller pitches... One other thing is the board headers are rarely problematic, as they're effectively cooled by the PCB, but the wire mounted crimps & housings are always the weakest link.
Finally, Amphenol are one of the higher tier connector manufacturerers, with tons of automotive & defence spec connectors. They know what they're doing.
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