Road Cycling

Status
Not open for further replies.
Carbon clincher wheels, good/bad idea? I weigh about 85kg, cycle around the north Pennines so no long descents really.

Lots of forum posts when googled suggest "omg no the rims will explode, you won't be able to brake, look at this video of someone crashing because the brakes don't work" etc

I'm 95kgs, was 100kgs and ride on Zipp 404s without any problems. Brakes are great in the dry but are supposed to be interesting in the wet. I use another bike if the weather is crap so have no experience of carbon wheels in the wet.
 
I'm 95kgs, was 100kgs and ride on Zipp 404s without any problems. Brakes are great in the dry but are supposed to be interesting in the wet. I use another bike if the weather is crap so have no experience of carbon wheels in the wet.

Oh, they're interesting alright :p

I'm the same. Well, 92kg, 404s in the rain or dry, wind or snow. I'm on them.
 
CAR vs BIKE!
Finally got around to checking my mileage. Car had it's MOT on the 6th May, between MOT's it has done 4446 miles. Cycling over that period Strava gives me a total mileage of 3949 miles. Fingers crossed I can beat it this year! :D

Looks like I've done 2300 miles in the car since last August and 3500 miles or so on the road bike since then... just topped it over 4000 the other week. Zero commutes (despite 'cycle to work' bike)... I guess it would be quite a bit more if I actually commuted. Tempted to start when the weather is okay and try just putting it next to my desk until Workplace Resources come round and complain.


Cool. Glad it worked. Fitfiletools has been great with all my Garmin crashes recently.
 
Cool. Glad it worked. Fitfiletools has been great with all my Garmin crashes recently.

Don't know what happened, sometimes I've seen odd time blips at middle and end, but this was right in the middle. Didn't know of the website, so will probably forget it next time it happens and ask again :D
 
Do it!

In my experience, it'll be harder to do two 150mile rides over consecutive days than it would be to do one big 300 mile day. Good training for you though :)

I think the mental aspect is the bit I'm dreading most. 140-150 miles solo is almost double what I've done solo before. Still, working myself up to it right now. I'm probably maybe going to do it, maybe :p

edit: Maybe I'll cheat again and get a train to/from Crewe both days :s
 
Yes, but only when speed is your top priority (ie when racing).

Tubulars allow for a lighter rim and mostly have better rolling resistance.

The difficulty (and huge relative cost) of fixing a puncture outweighs any benefits when not racing.

Tubulars have the weight advantage and may be easier to handle in the event of a puncture, but clinchers usually have lower rolling resistance. :)
 
Has anyone got any thoughts on look keo pedals? I have SPD pedals on my commuter and winter bikes, and I have SPD-SL on my summer bike. I'm looking at getting bepro power meter pedals for my better bike, which are look keo compatible. Is there anything I should be aware of? Do people find them better or worse in use than SPD-SL? What's cleat life like?
 
Carbon clincher wheels, good/bad idea? I weigh about 85kg, cycle around the north Pennines so no long descents really.

Lots of forum posts when googled suggest "omg no the rims will explode, you won't be able to brake, look at this video of someone crashing because the brakes don't work" etc
I went from cheapy/budget alu rims (Campag Khamsin & Giant P-R2's) to my current cheapy carbon's which have an alu brake track (Shimano RS81's). I've noticed no problems with braking, if anything the braking feels even more responsive and I'm guessing that's due to lower rotational rim mass.
General use (no commuting), a couple of ~50mile rides a week, only around 1000m of ascent/descent.
Depends what you're looking for and what you're coming from. If you're after speed on the flats then carbon for lightness isn't really the best option, you're better looking at deeper section wheels (aero benefits outweigh any weight penalty, the rotating mass helping to maintain speed).
If you want some wheels for quick accelerations/slowdowns then lighter wheels (regardless if carbon or not) will make a difference (lower rotating mass), stiffness too. Obviously for dedicated climbing you're after lightness (less weight to carry upwards) and stiffness (maximum power transfer). Some like wider rims for more grip too.

Horses for courses! But for 'general use' I've found my carbon/alu combo good. General use around here is some punchy climbs and many junctions so the increased acceleration/slowdown has helped me. I'm in the process of building up a deeper aero wheelset for some of the faster A road stuff the clubs and chaingangs do.
 
well of course braking will be similar/better because of the breaking surface, if the surface was carbon it'd be rubbish in wet
 
Also, carbon for riding on the flat not making sense...doesn't make sense. They'll likely be deeper rims and hence more aero so..faster on the flat.
 
Spotted a wild Shamrock in Richmond Park earlier! (well subconsciously... Flyby revealed it)

XemdEpF.png
 
Also, carbon for riding on the flat not making sense...doesn't make sense. They'll likely be deeper rims and hence more aero so..faster on the flat.

So all carbon rims are deep rims...? No. :p

Obviously if you're spending ~£1000 on a carbon wheelset it's better to buy some deeper sections as they will be good for 2 of my examples - climbing (light) and flat (aero). But I didn't read that as the question...? Which is kinda why I asked what kinda riding he was after to get a judge of what 'Carbon clincher wheels' Jon's been looking at...

Spotted a wild Shamrock in Richmond Park earlier! (well subconsciously... Flyby revealed it)

XemdEpF.png
Ah the wild Shamrock in it's natural habitat. Such a peaceful creature, it's calm facade giving no impression over the speed and power contained within.
 
Well, I'd argue that the Shimano "carbon" wheelset you've mentioned is a pretty unusual one. If you google for "carbon clincher wheelset" over 90% of them are deep section.

I'm not even sure what the point of the RS81's carbon claim is, outside of marketing. I actually assumed they were deep section carbon rims with an alu braking surface when you mentioned them.
 
I'm not even sure what the point of the RS81's carbon claim is, outside of marketing. I actually assumed they were deep section carbon rims with an alu braking surface when you mentioned them.

They are, they make the RS81s in 3 different versions of various depth profiles c24, c35 and c50. It's not that unusual when you consider Zipp make the 202, Fulcrum makes the racing zero carbon etc.
 
Last edited:
Well, I'd argue that the Shimano "carbon" wheelset you've mentioned is a pretty unusual one. If you google for "carbon clincher wheelset" over 90% of them are deep section.

I'm not even sure what the point of the RS81's carbon claim is, outside of marketing. I actually assumed they were deep section carbon rims with an alu braking surface when you mentioned them.

They're mostly a cheaper version of the Shimano Dura Ace 9000's :cool:

Similar setup as the FFWD F4R's and I think one of the Fulcrums is a carbon/alloy mix, Zero's? Quattro's? Zipp 60's are the same too... Don't Cosmic Carbones have an alu shell and braking surface with a carbon 'fairing'?

Not that unusual really :p
 
Last edited:
Does anybody have any experience with the Fizik R3 Uomo? I was pretty much set on getting the R5B but feel like the R3 uomo, although an older shoe, might be the better of the two? From what i can tell, the R3 is stiffer, full carbon bottoms, better breathability and also lighter. It also happens that its £20 cheaper than the R5B at the moment too in my size.

Thoughts?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom