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I think I probably need to give the Zwift trial a go. I've sort of been put off by some things I've read about it.

What are their training plans like/how do they compare to TR?

Former die-hard TR user here but for various reasons, no fault of TR, I'm using Zwift solely now but still have my TR account for workout ideas & plans.

There is a moderate database on Zwift but no where near as comprehensive or thorough as TR. You can create custom workouts though but it's a little time consuming and not that well refined but they run fine. They have no PowerMatch facility currently so if you want to use a Smart Trainer with a PowerMeter you'll have to live with, or adjust FTP accordingly, for any variance in readings. There are workarounds but it's a PITA.

I never struggled with the monotony of indoor training but it does provide a nice distraction and some sociability. See the Indoor Training thread ;)

Edit: New Rapha Pro Team Kit, prepare yourselves...
 
Former die-hard TR user here but for various reasons, no fault of TR, I'm using Zwift solely now but still have my TR account for workout ideas & plans.

There is a moderate database on Zwift but no where near as comprehensive or thorough as TR. You can create custom workouts though but it's a little time consuming and not that well refined but they run fine. They have no PowerMatch facility currently so if you want to use a Smart Trainer with a PowerMeter you'll have to live with, or adjust FTP accordingly, for any variance in readings. There are workarounds but it's a PITA.

I never struggled with the monotony of indoor training but it does provide a nice distraction and some sociability. See the Indoor Training thread ;)

Edit: New Rapha Pro Team Kit, prepare yourselves...
I installed the trial yesterday and, well, I'm far from impressed. Too cartoony, too, I don't know. Not sure what I was expecting but its not for me.

I don't struggle with indoor training monotony (ok 3 hrs was pushing it), so think I'll stick to TR and music in the background.
 
What are their training plans like/how do they compare to TR?
Benny answered it much more concisely than I ever could. Personally, I struggled with TR, the monotony of it (perfect word!) of holding set X power/cadence for X minutes/seconds soon wore me down. It just didn't engage me enough, some people can do it, I couldn't.

Much of the same could be said of Zwift, it works for some, but not others. For me, if I just 'go on Zwift' I really don't achieve much and will struggle to ride for an hour - I'll spend the time riding around smashing people and putting efforts into the couple of sprints/hills/mountains. It's fun, but not so much of a sense of achievement at the end. If I go on and follow a training session/plan, I'm slightly more engaged, having to concentrate more, but still get quite bored of anything over an hour (very similar to TR in this regard). When you're doing a training session on Zwift you're semi-separated from everyone else and the environment. You can see it/them but you can't draft other riders and the environment won't impact your trainer resistance (as you're holding power levels determined by your training, not the environment).

More recently I've been doing more and more group rides and racing on Zwift and utterly loving it! Really engaging, great training and the competition side of it can really give a good sense of accomplishment. Although do you have to take everything with a pinch of salt, there's so many 'bad' riders (zoomers) who are either using hacks, motors, low weight or just bad configurations & connections. They're all over the platform, but there enough other users/riders that you can easily ignore them and hardly notice them now.

Zwift is well worth the trail, I'd recommend one 'getting to know it' ride where you figure things out and test how some of your efforts are on whatever rolling terrain you can find. Another ride following a plan of some kind, theres some GCN challenges on there at the moment where you can enter a prize draw by doing GCN training sessions designed by each of the presenters (there's quite regular things like that on there). If you had time/the legs for a 3rd ride then some of the group organised rides (usually labelled 'base' rides on zwiftpower.com) are good to get into, or ride 'The Pretzel' or 'Volcano' (mountain climbs) on the Watopia map are good tests.

I agree it can look very cartoony. The graphics are nothing compared to most games, but bear in mind the platform has very low requirements for people running it on laptops, iphones & ipads. Think it can even run ok on integrated graphics. Would be nice for a 'premium textures' pack or addon or something for those of us with powerful hardware...

The segment linked finishes well past the summit about 1.5 miles into the descent so you'll miss everyone who just rode up and back again.
Try this segment, same climb but an extra 600 or so people done it.
That's more like it, still only the pro guys on there - yourself and Dean! ;)
 
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Yay, knocked off my bike this morning, riding along my usual commute, down middle of the road with my helmet and bar lights blazing, car pulled straight across on front of me. Everything appears to be OK few scrapes and bumps. Phone screen smashed and one of my vectors seems to be broken.

Guy was very apologetic and got a witness just in case. Luckily the witness who was coming the other way was a bit further back otherwise it could have been a lot worse.
 
Nooo, gutted, SoliD, but glad you're mostly ok.
What happens next? Do you call their insurance or ?
 
I installed the trial yesterday and, well, I'm far from impressed. Too cartoony, too, I don't know. Not sure what I was expecting but its not for me.

I'd give it another chance to be honest, it took a while to grow on me. Once you complete a few segments and have PR's to beat (during free-ride) it can become quite engaging. If you don't have a Smart Trainer it's not quite so stimulating, mind due to the lack of PowerMatch I pretty much spend most of my time in manual resistance mode during workouts :o
 
Yay, knocked off my bike this morning, riding along my usual commute, down middle of the road with my helmet and bar lights blazing, car pulled straight across on front of me. Everything appears to be OK few scrapes and bumps. Phone screen smashed and one of my vectors seems to be broken.

Guy was very apologetic and got a witness just in case. Luckily the witness who was coming the other way was a bit further back otherwise it could have been a lot worse.

You ok mate?
 
Yay, knocked off my bike this morning, riding along my usual commute, down middle of the road with my helmet and bar lights blazing, car pulled straight across on front of me. Everything appears to be OK few scrapes and bumps. Phone screen smashed and one of my vectors seems to be broken.

Guy was very apologetic and got a witness just in case. Luckily the witness who was coming the other way was a bit further back otherwise it could have been a lot worse.

As long as you are OK pal that is the main thing!
Broke your power meter though? Should have broke his face bro.
 
All good thanks guys, appeared to be doing about 18mph, should have been going quicker, Grudas Mode! :D

As long as you are OK pal that is the main thing!
Broke your power meter though? Should have broke his face bro.

Need to check it, it's reading but may have been knocked, I was surprisingly calm and got his number, text the bloke saying ti could be expensive if they're broken. Couldn't think of any way to put it but I've got computer pedals so it could be quite expensive!
 
As soon as you tell anyone that your pedals read power from your feet and tell you how many times they spin on your computer on the front of your bike.... They've already established you are a nutter and that such things clearly cost more than their 25 year mortgage.
If he has knackered them though, I'd 100% be sending him a Wiggle link to a brand new pair!
 
As soon as you tell anyone that your pedals read power from your feet and tell you how many times they spin on your computer on the front of your bike.... They've already established you are a nutter and that such things clearly cost more than their 25 year mortgage.
If he has knackered them though, I'd 100% be sending him a Wiggle link to a brand new pair!

It's even worse when I've got 2 pairs of them :D :D

They seem to be ok, just took the one that seemed wierd off, put it back on, calibrated and reading absolutely fine. May have had a knock. Will probably get him to plump for a new helmet as knocked me noggin.
 
Yay, knocked off my bike this morning, riding along my usual commute, down middle of the road with my helmet and bar lights blazing, car pulled straight across on front of me. Everything appears to be OK few scrapes and bumps. Phone screen smashed and one of my vectors seems to be broken.

Guy was very apologetic and got a witness just in case. Luckily the witness who was coming the other way was a bit further back otherwise it could have been a lot worse.
Glad you're alright!

Assume he was turning right across traffic? Many just seem to expect you to stop. Guy the other day with is window open when I shouted at him "Why are you cycling so fast?". Didn't have time for a response but wanted to ask why he didn't pull out on the van that was also doing 25mph 10m in front of me...
 
Glad you're alright!

Assume he was turning right across traffic? Many just seem to expect you to stop. Guy the other day with is window open when I shouted at him "Why are you cycling so fast?". Didn't have time for a response but wanted to ask why he didn't pull out on the van that was also doing 25mph 10m in front of me...

Yeah, turned straight across tagged my back quarter so I mostly slid. Didn't see any indicator or anything prior. Just getting him to pay for phone and new helmet.
 
Clearing out my mum's loft for new insulation last weekend. Got myself a new addition to the trophy cabinet:
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Excellent work dude.
19 years on and you are up to 3 days straight cycling now without sleep. Quite a progression that.
 
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