Road Cycling

SoliD · 15 Mar 2017 at 11:45

touch said:
In an ideal world, yes, but it doesnt work for everyone. If you can't use power on every ride then a lot of the data is meaningless.
With a powertap, I cant use it on my mtb/cross rides in the winter and I use my race wheels for racing so it misses out a large chunk of my riding. That puts the TSS and freshness graphs out, particularly if you race a lot and most of the summer is spent in a race/recover cycle. It's also going to miss some of the max power, ftp, etc stuff as well.
I'm sure you'd still get some useful data from it but there's also a lot of guesswork involved to fill in the gaps too.

TP can utilise your HR for freshness stuff to some extent I found, yes it's not ideal when racing CX every week, but with a bit of common sense and good data collection the rest of the time I can get a good judge of where I am, also tracking HR from that dirty running exercise for overall fatigue.

I'm generally recording power all the time where possible. Just be nice to be able to have power meters on everything (will be the case in 5 years I suspect)

BennyC · 15 Mar 2017 at 12:31

touch said:
In an ideal world, yes, but it doesnt work for everyone. If you can't use power on every ride then a lot of the data is meaningless.
With a powertap, I cant use it on my mtb/cross rides in the winter and I use my race wheels for racing so it misses out a large chunk of my riding. That puts the TSS and freshness graphs out, particularly if you race a lot and most of the summer is spent in a race/recover cycle. It's also going to miss some of the max power, ftp, etc stuff as well.
I'm sure you'd still get some useful data from it but there's also a lot of guesswork involved to fill in the gaps too.

This is exactly why you need an easily transferable PM or multiple options if restricted by cleat type for example MTB/CX

or just go full roadie

FishFluff · 15 Mar 2017 at 12:52

My only issue with Campag stuff (other than the price) is that it limits the choice of wheels. I liked the look of the Mavic Cosmics but I think they only do the freehub in Shimano/SRAM? Chorus EPS looks awesome though and I'm now thinking that's the way to go. Enablers, the lot of you.

Vonhelmet · 15 Mar 2017 at 12:55

FishFluff said:
My only issue with Campag stuff (other than the price) is that it limits the choice of wheels. I liked the look of the Mavic Cosmics but I think they only do the freehub in Shimano/SRAM? Chorus EPS looks awesome though and I'm now thinking that's the way to go. Enablers, the lot of you.

A quick google suggests you can get a campagnolo freehub for Mavic wheels.

Shamrock · 15 Mar 2017 at 12:56

I have some Mavic Cosmic Carbones with campag freehub.

Don't buy Mavics would be my advice anyway.

SoliD · 15 Mar 2017 at 13:05

FishFluff said:
My only issue with Campag stuff (other than the price) is that it limits the choice of wheels. I liked the look of the Mavic Cosmics but I think they only do the freehub in Shimano/SRAM? Chorus EPS looks awesome though and I'm now thinking that's the way to go. Enablers, the lot of you.

11 speed is 11 speed. I have a Campag Disc Wheel, and run it on my Ultegra Di2 set up on my TT bike.

Roady · 15 Mar 2017 at 14:12

As mentioned, freehubs are all easily changed (although quite expensive for what they are!).

It's beautiful out there guys, sunny and warm 15 degrees! Some winds from the south but not exactly cold, really really hard to turn back in to work after my lunchtime ride home, wouldn've been so easy to just keep going!

Lethal` · 15 Mar 2017 at 14:16

Roady said:
It's beautiful out there guys, sunny and warm 15 degrees! Some winds from the south but not exactly cold, really really hard to turn back in to work after my lunchtime ride home, wouldn've been so easy to just keep going!

As I said yesterday - weather is always good the day before and day after my rides

Roady · 15 Mar 2017 at 14:33

Please cycle on Friday & Monday kthx

booyaka · 15 Mar 2017 at 14:43

nice easy 50 mile social ride this morning. Pretty slow average as a couple of the boys haven't really been out this year.

https://www.strava.com/activities/901114242

Breezy but dry.

Thomas. PLease. · 15 Mar 2017 at 15:00

Hydro disc braked CX bikes for £1k?

Thinking of getting something on cyclescheme this year. Seen a whyte Saxon cross with Sram rival discs and 1x11 gearing for £999. Anyone got anything else comparable?

Lethal` · 15 Mar 2017 at 15:10

Pinnacle Arkose range probably fits that budget well or something Cube.

https://www.evanscycles.com/cube-cross-race-pro-2017-cyclocross-bike-EV287847

2016 model will be under £1k if somewhere like Pauls Cycles has it.

Shamrock · 15 Mar 2017 at 15:15

Thomas. PLease. said:
Hydro disc braked CX bikes for £1k?

Thinking of getting something on cyclescheme this year. Seen a whyte Saxon cross with Sram rival discs and 1x11 gearing for £999. Anyone got anything else comparable?

Are you going into CX or is this for commuting?

SDK^ · 15 Mar 2017 at 16:01

Whoop, Canyon have shipped my bike......finally

Excited much

Roady · 15 Mar 2017 at 16:14

SDK^ said:
Whoop, Canyon have shipped my bike......finally

Excited much

All you know is they're shipped a bike & emailed you. It could be your bike, it could be another. It could be your bike being delivered to someone else. Canyon always gonna Canyon!

In all seriousness I hope you avoid any problems & enjoy it! Pics asap!

Thomas. PLease. said:
Hydro disc braked CX bikes for £1k?

Thinking of getting something on cyclescheme this year. Seen a whyte Saxon cross with Sram rival discs and 1x11 gearing for £999. Anyone got anything else comparable?

Arkrose as mentioned, also Pyrolite, Dolomite.

PlanetX London Road.
Genesis Croix.
Whyte Sussex / Devon / Dorset.
Specialized Diverge / Roubaix (but you'd not get new & hydro for that).
Trek Domane (old models without the new front headset decoupler).
(The last 2 you may find 2015/16 models still on Evans' etc.)

Lots of crossover with many of the 'road bike but with discs' which opens up many more options like: Focus Cayo, Spesh Tarmac, Giant Contend & Defy Advanced, Cannondale Synapse etc etc.

http://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/217641-20-2017s-hottest-disc-brake-equipped-road-bikes
https://roadcyclinguk.com/gear/fifteen-best-2017-road-bikes-1000-1500.html

BennyC · 15 Mar 2017 at 16:29

SDK^ said:
Whoop, Canyon have shipped my bike......finally

Excited much

Huzzah!

Checked with them today as to whether we are still on course for shipment next week. Can confirm, supposedly so

Roady · 15 Mar 2017 at 16:29

Been getting more and more annoyed with front mudguard noises this week so removed it at lunchtime... Still getting noises, ffs! Might be my rear guard where it mounts around the BB vibrating, but was really sounding like the bottom of the front guard. :mad:

Need to clean my BB anyway as got some grit in there somewhere causing the odd click so looks like some maintenance is in order this evening. Really want to go out and ride but with the weekend forecast being dire I should jump on Zwift to get more miles in than racing the daylight... At least while I'm feeling good/fresh. :cool:

booyaka · 15 Mar 2017 at 16:53

Local bunch of cycling boys I knock around with - finally decided to get a club top. WE're not an official British Cycling affiliated club - just a social club. About 30/40 people.

Think it looks pretty smart!!

Saytan · 15 Mar 2017 at 16:54

Roady said:
Am I right in thinking that Shimano 7/8/9 speed all use the same chains? Other halfs Avail 5 is 16 speed Claris (FSA crankset & SRAM cassette with Shimano derailleurs) and I'm sure the current chain is a KMC 'Z7' (which is listed as 7 speed on Wiggle...)

7 and 8 are the same, but 9 is narrower.

Roady · 15 Mar 2017 at 17:08

booyaka said:
Local bunch of cycling boys I knock around with - finally decided to get a club top. WE're not an official British Cycling affiliated club - just a social club. About 30/40 people.

Think it looks pretty smart!!

German/Belgium flag colours?

Saytan said:
7 and 8 are the same, but 9 is narrower.

Thanks.

While you're here...

Any suggestions on a spacer to move a crankset 'outwards' to help chainring alignment? BB30 Praxis crank spider with my Powertap C1 rings... Ring clearance to frame is tight & FD cage clearance is VERY tricky leading me to some very exact indexing. So 'EXACT' that any high wattages causing chainring/frame flex cause a distinctive 'knock' as some of the chainring has lumps/raised parts (to aid big ring shifting) which catch/rub on the cage.

Too many wattage^bazookas? It's 'only' 500/600W (and higher)