Road Cycling

As soon as I throw my leg over the crossbar I start sweating. I'd have to ride everywhere at 3mph to avoid it.

I remember we always have discussions in the winter about people riding round in 6 layers. I quite like it when it gets down to 5 degrees as I can wear a base layer and jersey and leg warmers and be fine so long as I've got half decent gloves. When it's like that I actually don't sweat much!! Maybe it's my Finnish ancestry.

Anyway.

No road riding for me this weekend, though I did get out for 16 off-road miles on my cx bike. I got lost. I got muddy. I got off on the stupidly steep bits and nearly died on a path made of the most enormous gravel. Two points of note:

1) Fat tyres with low pressure make for major slowness on the road. With every stroke I could feel the tyres compressing, like loads of my work was going into that. It's like when you see someone with full suspension bouncing their way down the road.

2) Fat tyres with low pressure make for hella grip. Going up a wiggly gravelly slope I had a moment when my rear tyre was about to slide out from under me. I put the power down and tried to steady myself and tyre just bit into the dirt and took hold and I made it up like a boss. I'm not used to that sort of thing on slick tyres.
 
Rapha shorts convert checking in. Wore the Core commuting home at lunch and they're superb!

Straps are incredible, they don't feel like any others I've tried, they actually feel too flimsy as they're so soft and you can hardly tell they're there, yet while still remaining very supportive. Considering I've currently got sunburnt shoulders, they were even more incredible! Pad feels huge compared to my usual castelli/sportful, in size and thickness. I guess similar to Sportful Giro in thickness but much more form fitting, literally like a glove. Some superb camel toe when first putting them on and walking around, but superbly comfortable on the bike and no movement (unlike the Giro). Time will tell with a long ride in them, might jump on the turbo later to test them with a real sweat on.

The Pro team are going to be just as incredible which does leave me with the dilemma about keeping both pairs. Or more accurately - how to justify keeping £210 worth of shorts. Guess I need to really sell loads of old kit I no longer wear or that still fits me! :o

Fell running is the best sport there is.
For me it's right up there with Bog Snorkelling.

Castelli Gabba 2 short jersey any good for summer?

If not, would anyone be able to recommend a Castelli jersey for the summer. Prefer Castelli as I like their sizing but am open to other similar sizing brands.
Avoid the Gabba/Perfetto! They're great spring/autumn jerseys made for blocking cold winds and being showerproof. They're not made for breathability and/or hot weather!

The Entrata is ok, I own the v1. Very light and airy although the fabric is super fragile - I've got a ton of pulls in mine even though I've been careful with it! Even with the current Wiggle '20% off Castelli' I'd not pay £50 for it (then again I'm a cheap skate). Sportful are a good Castelli alternative, the sizing is almost exactly the same, although again, not great prices this time of year. I was buying Castelli & sportful SS jerseys in the spring for £30-£35. Failing that (and if you're not that fussed about the branding), size down and go for DHB. I've never had a problem with the quality of DHB jerseys and many of my commuting jerseys are DHB.

To give you an idea on sizing I'm a Large in most 'aero'/race Castelli jerseys (a Medium in the more relaxed ones like the Entrata), same with Sportful. I'm a Medium in DHB & Rapha. I do prefer a close fitting jersey though and have quite large shoulders.

I have the LS and SS, I've worn the long sleeve in 22c/24c heat and the SS in 28c heat and been fine.
I just baked in the 21 degrees here in a SS Castelli Aero Race. Couldn't imagine wearing one of my windproof/spring jerseys or sleeves! :o
 
Ok I thought about it and won't go with castelli jerseys for the summer. As others pointed out, the ones that sweat easy don't recommend it and I sweat very easily. I wear a UA baselayer and then a perfetto in sub 6C winter and I'm fine.

Rapha shorts convert checking in. Wore the Core commuting home at lunch and they're superb!

Straps are incredible, they don't feel like any others I've tried, they actually feel too flimsy as they're so soft and you can hardly tell they're there, yet while still remaining very supportive. Considering I've currently got sunburnt shoulders, they were even more incredible! Pad feels huge compared to my usual castelli/sportful, in size and thickness. I guess similar to Sportful Giro in thickness but much more form fitting, literally like a glove. Some superb camel toe when first putting them on and walking around, but superbly comfortable on the bike and no movement (unlike the Giro). Time will tell with a long ride in them, might jump on the turbo later to test them with a real sweat on.

You wouldn't happen to have the core jersey would you? I only own Castelli stuff but the core jersey does tempt me. I was thinking of picking up another pair of Castelli Velocissimo bib shorts but may give the core bibs a shot and can save 20% on the bib + jersey bundle.
 
Nah just the shorts, I have loads of jerseys I'm happy with (mostly Castelli & Sportful) yet I've never been totally set on a type of chamois or brand of shorts.

There was a Rapha 25% off sale which finished on Friday, (with it also being my birthday - perfect excuse!), you could try the code to see if it still works (check back a page or two here for it). I doubt it though.

I grabbed 2 sets of Rapha shorts with the intentions of sending 1 back unless 110% happy. Jury is still out but it's looking likely I'll have to justify keeping both pairs. The Pro Team at £135 and the Core at £75. *gulp* :o

So far I prefer the Core shorts over the castelli's I own - Progetto X2, Evoluzione & Velocissimo Team. But's early days yet, I've not ridden them for more than 15 mins! ;)
 
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EDIT: Velo Birmingham route changed after they hadn't even checked with most of the county councils outside of Birmingham that they would be willing to close roads. On the grape-vine I heard that most of the councils would normally charge for an organised road closure like this, but someone on Birmingham city council was behind it and they'd pushed the other councils involved to do it for free. Just Herefordshire & Worcestershire stood up to it and refused, with the organiser unwilling to pay the fee they required.

I'd like to see it go ahead now without any problems as I've still got huge concerns over the organisers - they took very early pre-bookings without even booking venues and organising the route & closures. I was really concerned and thought they were pulling a 'fast one' as this was their first event without them previously doing anything cycling related.

https://roadcyclinguk.com/gear/gear...ver-s-works-tarmac-sl6-first-ride-review.html

Very interesting info regarding geometry on the new Specialized Tarmac SL6 - basically no male/female specific frames. I guess much of that comes from the sloped top tube we've seen more and more basically blurring the lines between the traditional lower top tube of women specific frames. Very interesting to come from a company like Specialized who've always had very specific womens versions of nearly every single one of their male range.
 
Very interesting info regarding geometry on the new Specialized Tarmac SL6 - basically no male/female specific frames. I guess much of that comes from the sloped top tube we've seen more and more basically blurring the lines between the traditional lower top tube of women specific frames. Very interesting to come from a company like Specialized who've always had very specific womens versions of nearly every single one of their male range.


I prefer the look of my version (one before). Not a great fan of the seat stays not meeting the top tube. They claim it's lighter and more aero, I doubt I'd notice any diffference!
 
Right Marmotte write up time I guess.

It was due to be an early start to get to Bourg D'Oisans for 7:20 for a 7:50 start, especially as the roads to drive there would be closed from 07:00, so planned to leave about 6.15, usually this would mean me getting up about half hour before grabbing bite to eat getting dressed and going, in reality I had an awful sleep and woke up at 3.30 not being able to get back to sleep for more than a few minutes....Managed to leave on time after a big old bowl of porridge and some croissants.

Bourg D'Oisans was absolutely rammed, and we saw the first wave roll out at 07:00, lots of nice bikes on display, after they rolled through we made our way to the start pen, where we had to wait for what seemed an eternity to finally roll out.

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After getting going I managed to lose my mates within about 2 miles, so I jumped into a group and got dragged along to the first climb of the day the Col Du Glandon, which is an 18.4 mile climb covering 4000ft. The temperature started out a balmy 12c and was comfy climbing up until the last 2 miles where a freezing fog had set in, along with the wind, once at the top the Marmotte had been neutralised so they didn't have anyone kill themselves. The food stop here was absolute carnage with hundreds of people trying to figure out where to get food and drink. I stocked up on bread and camembert( I hate camembert, but as it was all there was in the savoury category I shoved a bit down me along with some fruit and grabbing some bars and gels which I chucked into my drink. My food plan for the day was to eat normal food as much as possible to try not to kill my stomach.

Onto the descent and the first couple of miles in the fog was interesting, but once out of it the descent was great fun, passing a lot of people shouting a gauche in my best french accent :D Down the bottom I got into a large group with some guys from Chorlton Wheelers and had a good chat about riding and things we'd done before. A quick water stop and along the rest of the valley to the foot of the Telegraphe, a relatively easy 7.3mi with 2700ft of climbing. I tapped out a good rhythm talking to the Chorlton guys for a bit but they let me go, I'd be seeing a lot more of them as the day went on. Atop the Telegraphe was a water stop, so a quick fill, photo and short descent to the bottom of the Galibier. Once again a good feed stop but now the numbers had whittled down and it wasn't so much carnage, I stopped for 5 mins at most and then ploughed on.

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The Galibier was a monster, seemingly going on forever, but in reality it was 11 miles and 4000ft, on top of the Telegraphe which I had summitted only a mere 30 minutes before it was very tough. Going up and up, it got colder and colder, with the last 4 miles being especially cold and windy. The altitude played a part too, once I got to the top I grabbed some much needed sustainance, but my stomach was starting to feel a bit ropey from the constant eating and drinking, so didn't eat much but grabbed a bit to eat on the way down. My mates were just at the bottom as I left, so about 2 hours behind me.

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Half way up the Galibier

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Galibier Summit

The descent off the Galibier was very cold at first, but the clouds soon cleared and the sun came out, giving the most beautiful views of the mountains around it. Going at 40 mph whilst being able to enjoy those views was incredible, unfortunately I had forgot to put my glasses back on at the top and on the descent they managed to dislodge from my helmet and balance on my back for a good 30 seconds, but couldn't take my hands off the bars to save them, so they bit the dust and I carried on knowing once the descent was out the way it was only d'huez to go.

Once at the base of the valley you could really feel the heat being about 27c, at this point I knew d'huez would be tough. Previously I had thought just getting over the galibier would be the hard part over, but in the heat d'huez took on another form. I started off up the climbing watered and gelled up, but soon settled into a rhythm I could maintain in the heat, which was quite slow and grindy, hitting the first water stop graBBED A cup that went straight over my head and ploughed on, using the water in my bottle to cool me down. Luckily there was another water stop a few more hairpins up, at this point I covered myself over helmet, gloves, arms and filled my bottles knowing beating the heat was key. About 6km to go from this point and I figured at my current pace about 40 minutes, the next hairpins ticked over and I got into the last mile and my psychological battle had been won and my legs found a new least of life, sprinting out the saddle for that last bit, to finish in a time of 8hr43 (minus the Glandon descent) at 10.9mph average.

I worked out how to get my freebies including a finishers cap and t shirt along with some food and a can of coke and made my way back down to meet my mates, unfortunately they missed the cut off by 10 mins to go up d'huez but one of the them ploughed on, whilst the other waited with me.

OVerall the day was great, but probably the hardest ride I've ever done in its relenting nature, but glad to tick it off. Now to think about next year.
 
@BennyC was it you or someone else that went out to Germany before? I have a feeling you were in Bavaria?

Heading over there soon so if you wrote it up can you link the posts? :)

Didn't do a write up (that I recall) but was out there in June last year and funnily enough will be out there again WC 17th :) where about will you be?
 
Didn't do a write up (that I recall) but was out there in June last year and funnily enough will be out there again WC 17th :) where about will you be?
Ahhh. I'll likely be in Munich though leaving just before the 17th.

Any recommended rides? I could probably drive somewhere.
 
Rapha update: wore the Core shorts on 3 commutes yesterday and loved them. Put the Pro Team shorts on last night and don't find them as comfortable or as good a fit. Straps are totally different and they feel too small/tight on me (Large) although the actual short sizing is spot on. I know the straps will rub on me the same as my Castelli/Sportful (feel uncomfortable after 6+ hours). Pad feels almost exactly the same as the Core, although slightly thinner and more fixed in place. For the price (£135) I think I'm going to return them without riding in them. I'm half thinking I put them up on the 'bay with that as a reserve for a quicker turn around - Rapha refunds are known to take 3-4 weeks.

Will probably look to get some more Core next time there's a 20%/25% sale/voucher. At £75 the price is bearable as my 'premium' short, certainly as my previous premium short (Sportful Gruppetto) I was buying at £65.

I was remotely considering that event as it looked a bit different. Bloody expensive though from what I remember!

Glad I didn't tbh
Yeah same. For me it was the thought of starting in Birmingham, so driving the ~60 miles there in the morning & parking, or staying over (my sister lives around half an hour from the start point). Then riding city roads out to the country, over to near Bromyard (less than 20 miles from home!) then returning to Bimingham. There was little appeal of the route - no notable climbs and along otherwise normally busy 'boring' midlands roads & quiet country lanes (which were closed for the event). I guess the appeal of closed roads for those living around Birmingham & the west of the city has to be the biggest draw.

It's a similar story of the Velothon for me - it starts 60 miles away in Cardiff and rides north to the Tumble which is only ~30 miles away from home before returning to Cardiff. Although I think I'm much more likely to ride the Velothon just to say I've done it. Same with E'tape Wales, although that takes in climbs much further from home I wouldn't otherwise have the opportunity of riding.

I prefer the look of my version (one before). Not a great fan of the seat stays not meeting the top tube. They claim it's lighter and more aero, I doubt I'd notice any diffference!
I doubt there's much in it! The additional aero 'advantage' figures they've given is against similar 'bikes in its class for weight'. Not the previous Tarmac, so very hard to draw exact comparisons.

Actually, what am I saying!? You *NEED* one (and you need to sell me your Torch)! ;)

Right Marmotte write up time I guess.
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OVerall the day was great, but probably the hardest ride I've ever done in its relenting nature, but glad to tick it off. Now to think about next year.
Incredible ride & time considering the nature of it Paul, huge kudos & well done! Such varied conditions and temperatures makes something like that even harder. Considering the amount of riding you packed in around it that was an incredible trip! How many Col's did you tick off the bucket list? :D

I really need to get myself onto one of these European rides in the next few years before I get too old to really enjoy it. Not even ridden a proper mountain yet! :(

Didn't do a write up (that I recall) but was out there in June last year and funnily enough will be out there again WC 17th :) where about will you be?
This was your post, couple of pics and comments but that was it, slack on details! ;)
 
Ahhh. I'll likely be in Munich though leaving just before the 17th.

Any recommended rides? I could probably drive somewhere.

If you're in Munich visit BikeDress really cool shop. We're based not far from the Austrian border usually in Schliersee and have only ridden locally in that area and not particularly far afield but it was nice (and challenging) enough last time. Got the capacity to go much further afield now.

Wouldn't be a short drive bout 90-120 mins I expect, though some of the guys at the store above were saying they ride out that way on the weekends and knew some of the climbs we'd done.

This was your post, couple of pics and comments but that was it, slack on details! ;)

Christ, you really do have far too much time on your hands. (link doesn't work, slacking :p).
 
My B-Twin helmet needs to go, it's great for <2 hour rides, but after that it starts to get uncomfortable. Any recommendations?

I'm looking at this one, but happy to spend less if there are other recommendations? Just looking for something comfortable
 
My B-Twin helmet needs to go, it's great for <2 hour rides, but after that it starts to get uncomfortable. Any recommendations?

I'm looking at this one, but happy to spend less if there are other recommendations? Just looking for something comfortable

I have a Kask Mojito which has done me well even for 24 hours in the saddle. I imagine the Vertigo is at least as good :)
 
Ah that's good to hear, was also looking at the Mojito, and it's cheaper too. I think it actually has a better colour scheme too (priority for a helmet :p)
 
Christ, you really do have far too much time on your hands. (link doesn't work, slacking :p).
My SearchFU was a little too good. This one works?

My B-Twin helmet needs to go, it's great for <2 hour rides, but after that it starts to get uncomfortable. Any recommendations?

I'm looking at this one, but happy to spend less if there are other recommendations? Just looking for something comfortable
It's worth trying them in a bike shop. Similar to shoes/chamois - one person's perfect is another's helmet from hell.

I've got a white Specialized Echelon II I wear as a day-to-day (commuting) helmet. Cheap and cheerful £60 jobbie from the LBS when I needed one. Fits me well as a Large (61cm bonce here)! I hunted down a Large Black/Red Kask Infinity (£170) as I really wanted a Kask after hearing all about them, especially in 'team colours'. I loved to idea of the open/close aero vent, which I'll admit works very well (also in the rain!).

The fit of the Kask is totally different to the Specialized. Whereas the fit of the Specialized is very 'oval' headed (think a rugby ball - which my head must be), the fit of the Kask is very 'round' headed (like a football). It basically leads to the Infinity sitting very wide on my head, the adjustment is good but I've still not got it perfect - when it's tight enough at the sides/rear the front is too tight and the top of my forehead rubs the inside of the shell. If I sit it back to avoid the rub I have to tighten it further and it sits too far back exposing 75% of my forehead (would be useless if I went over the bars). I should've stuck with Specialized and got the Evade in Black/Red.
 
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