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Rocket lake leaks

alex h said:
Hes just unreal cant help himself i think hes trying to convince himself or hes going for troll of the year award
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He's just trolling, he has to move the goal posts as his Intel dream crumbles.

The "paper launch" thing is all he has left and he's had to move that to just the 5900X and 5950X.

I must be imaging my 5900X, bought at RRP. Crazy!
 
AMD are not exactly begging or getting the scraps from TSMC...

I have heard some crap before but this is really taking the biscuit (and it's a really nice double choc chip one with extra chocolate coating).
 
Minstadave said:
He's just trolling, he has to move the goal posts as his Intel dream crumbles.

The "paper launch" thing is all he has left and he's had to move that to just the 5900X and 5950X.

I must be imaging my 5900X, bought at RRP. Crazy!
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According to dave you havnt got a 5900x youve got a unicorn mate
 
oweneades said:
AMD are not exactly begging or getting the scraps from TSMC...

I have heard some crap before but this is really taking the biscuit (and it's a really nice double choc chip one with extra chocolate coating).
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Oh daves good at this likes a good troll
 
Dave2150 said:
Exciting times, looking forward to full reviews.

That said, had hoped that AMD would hold the gaming performance crown for longer than a few months. Though not sure if it even counts, since the Ryzen 5000 series is just a pathetic paper launch. Here we are, months after release, when a Ryzen 5 5600X costs £360!!!! and the 5900x, 5950x are out of stock everywhere.

With the news that Rocket Lake is already being SHIPPED to consumers, ahead of launch, this bodes well for stock. Intel will probably sell/ship more units in launch week, than AMD have yet to sell in what, 4 months? Pathetic! :p
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Dude you have an 6700k, when you gonna upgrade that old tech, you should have grabbed a ryzen 5000 - can't believe you're enjoying your 3080 being held back by 14nm redundent hardware :p
 
Grim5 said:
Dude you have an 6700k, when you gonna upgrade that old tech, you should have grabbed a ryzen 5000 - can't believe you're enjoying your 3080 being held back by 14nm redundent hardware :p
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This is the most amusing thing about it hes on old tech doesnt upgrade and keeps telling us its exiting times as if hes going to get one are you sure hes got a 3080
 
alex h said:
Price hinting
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Since when discussing pricing is against forum rules? Wtf is going on with this forum?

why is OCUK scalping people with their jacked up prices in their shops and now even a mentioning of general market pricing every post is deleted?

that’s pretty dumb
 
pc-guy said:
Since when discussing pricing is against forum rules? Wtf is going on with this forum?

why is OCUK scalping people with their jacked up prices in their shops and now even a mentioning of general market pricing every post is deleted?

that’s pretty dumb
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I havnt got a clue mate i didnt know about that rule either as long as i can remember you could hint it was cheaper elsewhere but not give competitor names
 
alex h said:
I havnt got a clue mate i didnt know about that rule either as long as i can remember you could hint it was cheaper elsewhere but not give competitor names
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It’s highly hypocritical of this forum for the MM to not for profiteering then the very shop that runs this forum has 50% markup on GPU compared with RRP. If that is not profiteering I don’t know what is.

anyway beside the point.

the post of discussion was that Zen3 CPUs have been cheap recently and those cheap deals have been snapped up fast.
 
So some feedback from the testing and comparison we've done so far with RKL. We got two guys with chips now and a couple of others submitting data points for comparisons.

Speaking purely from a gaming perspective, the core is an improvement BUT! the interconnect has issues which creates major memory limitations for now.

Like Zen3, mem is now sync'd so you need to get the interconnect oc'd. Desync performance is complete trash so while you can get some cool aida screenshots of mem running at 5000mhz+ it's actual performance in games is really bad.

Right now the max sync with DR bdie we've seen is 3733 which isn't enough to overcome a 9900k/5800x tuned. It can just about match it in something like SOTTR bench comparing CPU stats.

What we can pretty much confirm is that RKL will live and die by it's sync limitation. Also, the 11700k is just really bad for any core oc headroom so if you want any cpu headroom potential at all, 11900k or bust. Obviously the bios and microcode will still go through a number of iterations from now until launch so no need to pass final judgement until then but really it'll simply come down to how high you can push sync'd mem on the platform.
 
Robert896r1 said:
So some feedback from the testing and comparison we've done so far with RKL. We got two guys with chips now and a couple of others submitting data points for comparisons.

Speaking purely from a gaming perspective, the core is an improvement BUT! the interconnect has issues which creates major memory limitations for now.

Like Zen3, mem is now sync'd so you need to get the interconnect oc'd. Desync performance is complete trash so while you can get some cool aida screenshots of mem running at 5000mhz+ it's actual performance in games is really bad.

Right now the max sync with DR bdie we've seen is 3733 which isn't enough to overcome a 9900k/5800x tuned. It can just about match it in something like SOTTR bench comparing CPU stats.

What we can pretty much confirm is that RKL will live and die by it's sync limitation. Also, the 11700k is just really bad for any core oc headroom so if you want any cpu headroom potential at all, 11900k or bust. Obviously the bios and microcode will still go through a number of iterations from now until launch so no need to pass final judgement until then but really it'll simply come down to how high you can push sync'd mem on the platform.
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That's what I've been hearing as well. Rocket Lake's gaming performance is actually being held back by it's memory performance (or lack there of) and higher memory latency than comet lake
 
Robert896r1 said:
So some feedback from the testing and comparison we've done so far with RKL. We got two guys with chips now and a couple of others submitting data points for comparisons.

Speaking purely from a gaming perspective, the core is an improvement BUT! the interconnect has issues which creates major memory limitations for now.

Like Zen3, mem is now sync'd so you need to get the interconnect oc'd. Desync performance is complete trash so while you can get some cool aida screenshots of mem running at 5000mhz+ it's actual performance in games is really bad.

Right now the max sync with DR bdie we've seen is 3733 which isn't enough to overcome a 9900k/5800x tuned. It can just about match it in something like SOTTR bench comparing CPU stats.

What we can pretty much confirm is that RKL will live and die by it's sync limitation. Also, the 11700k is just really bad for any core oc headroom so if you want any cpu headroom potential at all, 11900k or bust. Obviously the bios and microcode will still go through a number of iterations from now until launch so no need to pass final judgement until then but really it'll simply come down to how high you can push sync'd mem on the platform.
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Fascinating early insight, thanks for that.

I'm looking forward to some proper reviews across the software spectrum to assess what the full picture is; rather than just Geekbench.
 
Robert896r1 said:
So some feedback from the testing and comparison we've done so far with RKL. We got two guys with chips now and a couple of others submitting data points for comparisons.

Speaking purely from a gaming perspective, the core is an improvement BUT! the interconnect has issues which creates major memory limitations for now.

Like Zen3, mem is now sync'd so you need to get the interconnect oc'd. Desync performance is complete trash so while you can get some cool aida screenshots of mem running at 5000mhz+ it's actual performance in games is really bad.

Right now the max sync with DR bdie we've seen is 3733 which isn't enough to overcome a 9900k/5800x tuned. It can just about match it in something like SOTTR bench comparing CPU stats.

What we can pretty much confirm is that RKL will live and die by it's sync limitation. Also, the 11700k is just really bad for any core oc headroom so if you want any cpu headroom potential at all, 11900k or bust. Obviously the bios and microcode will still go through a number of iterations from now until launch so no need to pass final judgement until then but really it'll simply come down to how high you can push sync'd mem on the platform.
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Interesting, I imagine the release BIOS/microcode that's imminent will further improve things and eliminate any odd behaviour.
 
Dave2150 said:
Interesting, I imagine the release BIOS/microcode that's imminent will further improve things and eliminate any odd behaviour.
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I imagine that has rather taken some of the wind out of your sails but ever the optimist!

Why don't you just have the good sense to wait to see precisely what is and what is not, before all the bravado and triumphalism?
 
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