Rome 2 : Total War

Not having any issues here after sinking 17hours into the game already!

All issues/bugs I've come across so far will be patched out very quickly and mods will take care of the rest -as they did with the first Rome game.
 
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Munimentum said:
Except in this case, you're talking about technical issues you haven't personally experienced. That's like talking about the inner workings of political meetings and how everything is bought and paid for. You have no experience of this, no first hand personal knowledge, but you're talking about it like you know anyway, spreading stories and accounts not your own to essentially further an agenda. In this case, spreading the opinion that Rome II is a terrible game, when you haven't even played it.
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I don't need to play the game to know it has big problems. That many people don't just go and post on metacritic for the sake of it :rolleyes:
 
Munimentum said:
The three of you are three of the people I'm talking about, constantly going on and on posting and reposting in this thread over and over.

Suarez, as much as I love the TW series, I'm by no means a blind fanboy. I'm not saying the fact it has technical problems is acceptable nor that there aren't problems in the UI. What I have a problem with is people talking about these negatives like they make the game a 0/10 or that they cannot be fixed with patches or time. Yes, ideally they shouldn't be an issue at all, but has there been many games at launch with no issues?

Metacritic is hardly reliable in my opinion because much like this thread it's inundated with the loud, angry customers who had problems and decided those problems meant the entire game deserved 0-4 scores, and the people that didn't have problems aren't rating it and thus the ratings are temporarily skewed while launch problems are waded through.

As for Jono, you may be right that you might have technical issues. How do you know, though, if you don't mind me asking? It seems to me (just on first glance, I admit, I don't know about your circumstances) that you've read these guys go on about technical issues and decided you will get them too. Unfortunately that opinion seems to be prevalent, whether it is true or not.

By all means express your negative opinion, but be fair and balanced. The game, even with current issues, is at the very least a solid 7, and will easily become and 8/9 when launch issues are patched (or if the performance issues are fixed) As I, and plenty of others have said, I don't have performance issues, or if I do it's not noticeable to my eye, and I am quite anal about that.
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I have the game and have been trying all evening to get it to run right.

I was more excited by this release than anyone!

The fact is, it is broken. Look at the offical forums...almost everyone has performance issues.
 
Bergkamp said:
Solid 7 because why? Because you say? Well now I know. Reasons for my repetition include people asking the same questions. By the way, do you know next week's lottery numbers? Not only can you rate the game better than me now, you can also do it for the future! What a guy!
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Based on many factors. Size, scope, quality of everything (graphics, audio etc), sheer amount of replayability and longevity, value in terms of difficulty and strategy.

Essentially everything that makes the Total War games brilliant games is here, and refined slightly, for better or worse. Yes it has problems, but to say this isn't a good game at the very least is blind really.

Also, I've seen people say that these issues cannot be patched, it's impossible, blahblah. I think that might've been you. The fact that some people are having no issues points to software driver issues to me, which is something that can 100% be patched, so that's ******** hating right there. Bad optimization obviously can't really but that's something else and once driver issues are fixed might not be such a huge problem for those people having problems.
 
Had a jam on the prologue earlier and have to side with Munimentum. The fact some of the people whinging in here haven't even played the game speaks for itself.

People will still be playing this game in 10 years time, just like its predecessor
 
Bergkamp said:
Ok then, give me reasons why it's a great game. I can list plenty of reasons why it's rubbish.
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If you weren't so full of anger and a strange sense of importance that requires you to tell everybody that you are not happy, then you would have realised that I never called the game "great".

It isn't great. Simple as. It needs improvement and realistically shouldn't have been released in this state. However it also isn't rubbish.

Yes the battles are short, but considering the armour the men of this era are wearing is incredibly basic and doesn't cover much(if they are wearing armour at all) then you can't expect units to be able to slog it out for 20 minutes.. It is fast paced which rather than making it rubbish like some posts on here claim, actually makes it more strategic. The AI is more intelligent than it has been in the past and will actually set up choke points against you.

The campaign map is nice and is also very strategic due its limitations on where you can march armies. Diplomacy is good, traits(or whatever they are called) for units and generals are cool features that allow you to personalise them. The idea of controlling ships and ground troops is really cool and adds a new layer to commanding a battle. Requiring a general for every army(and the general cap) is a good feature instead of having hundreds of little armies running around the map.

Overall I really like it and feel that it would be difficult to find a game that I will spend as much time playing as this one for under £30
 
Finally started a campaign. I must say the UI is actually very slick and I love the new province system. Running very smoothly too, just shows how good it could be if they sort out the crossfire issues.
 
Bad optimisation on the games end can be patched out. Just look at Skyrim and Crysis, neither were barely playable on release yet quite quickly got patched into working order. Shogun 2 however didn't, so CE are most likely far too lazy to fix the post-driver update issues that remain.
 
I have bought the game, and I have had some minor technical issues and I have seen the changes they have made to the TW paradigm and I'm still absolutely loving it! I really don't get why some people waste time slating a game they have not even played?

Just clogging up a thread with male cow poo TBH.
 
Jono8 said:
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I have the game and have been trying all evening to get it to run right.

I was more excited by this release than anyone!

The fact is, it is broken. Look at the offical forums...almost everyone has performance issues.
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Incorrect. Almost everyone that POSTED has performance issues. There are many people who are spending their time doing other things such as.... PLAYING THE GAME rather than moaning on the forums..

The fact you were more excited for this than anyone is probably why you don't like it. You built it up to be the greatest thing ever and it was never going to be that so naturally you were left disappointed.
 
Monkeymatt said:
Incorrect. Almost everyone that POSTED has performance issues. There are many people who are spending their time doing other things such as.... PLAYING THE GAME rather than moaning on the forums..

The fact you were more excited for this than anyone is probably why you don't like it. You built it up to be the greatest thing ever and it was never going to be that so naturally you were left disappointed.
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I havent played it properly yet because i cant because the performance is so terrible.

if you love it so much, go and play it : /. You said yourself, the people with no problems are too busy playing it...so...off you go.
 
Munimentum said:
Based on many factors. Size, scope, quality of everything (graphics, audio etc), sheer amount of replayability and longevity, value in terms of difficulty and strategy.

Essentially everything that makes the Total War games brilliant games is here, and refined slightly, for better or worse. Yes it has problems, but to say this isn't a good game at the very least is blind really.

Also, I've seen people say that these issues cannot be patched, it's impossible, blahblah. I think that might've been you. The fact that some people are having no issues points to software driver issues to me, which is something that can 100% be patched, so that's ******** hating right there. Bad optimization obviously can't really but that's something else and once driver issues are fixed might not be such a huge problem for those people having problems.
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What difficulty, what strategy? The AI is completely passive, has zero competence in diplomacy, moves in pathetically small or pathetically unbalanced stacks, removes the need for forward planning by introducing magic boats that appear out of nothing, battles last 5 minutes, 2-3 minutes of which involves moving troops into what becomes a pointless blob of routing madness. UI that stands for Uninformative Interface, minute tech tree that leads to Marian reforms inside 10 years, buildings that are simply there for the sake of adding an illusion of balance...

I could go on, but I've already tried explaining all this to too many clowns already today. This is not what a Total War game should be, but at least one of us can enjoy it.
 
Jono8 said:
I havent played it properly yet because i cant because the performance is so terrible.

if you love it so much, go and play it : /. You said yourself, the people with no problems are too busy playing it...so...off you go.
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Because if he does that, the people who are constantly reposting their problems like everybody is having them and that it's the worst game ever, will be the only ones posting, much like they were earlier, and putting people off from a good game just because they're currently having problems. I read one person in this thread at least earlier say they weren't gonna buy the game now because of people like yourself, which is such a shame.

Bergkamp said:
What difficulty, what strategy? The AI is completely passive, has zero competence in diplomacy, moves in pathetically small or pathetically unbalanced stacks, removes the need for forward planning by introducing magic boats that appear out of nothing, battles last 5 minutes, 2-3 minutes of which involves moving troops into what becomes a pointless blob of routing madness. UI that stands for Uninformative Interface, minute tech tree that leads to Marian reforms inside 10 years, buildings that are simply there for the sake of adding an illusion of balance...

I could go on, but I've already tried explaining all this to too many clowns already today. This is not what a Total War game should be, but at least one of us can enjoy it.
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You know what you can do to increase difficulty? Play on something higher than easy.
AI is better than it was in previous games so if you're saying that's a reason for this being a worse total war game than before, that's silly.
Stacks have always been an issue really but I've not seen the stack imbalance here yet, as I mostly see stacks of 10ish generally.
Magic boats you could have a point, but Civ V does that and everybody wets themselves over that game, so it's not like it's not a proven design decision.
Quick battles I've actually found to be the perfect length. I haven't had a full 20vs20 stack battle though, so that might be the longer battle you're looking for, but in this case I might concede this point.
UI is great, what is it you don't like exactly? Do you even have a reason other than you've made the point so many times you think you think that?
Tech tree is smaller, sure, but more focused.
 
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Munimentum said:
Because if he does that, the people who are constantly reposting their problems like everybody is having them and that it's the worst game ever, will be the only ones posting, much like they were earlier, and putting people off from a good game just because they're currently having problems. I read one person in this thread at least earlier say they weren't gonna buy the game now because of people like yourself, which is such a shame.
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Well more fool them. All i have said is that performance is terrible, which is true and seems to be true for the majority of users on both TW Center and the official total war forums.
 
People trying to defend are going on about performance????

That is not the big issuefor me, its the completely redundant, pointless, joke battles that are dumbed down and over in minutes.

Jesus I can take bugs, need for optimization. **** I play planetside 2 and ARMA 3, look at the problems they have had. But the actual games are good, this is just utter trash battles.

**** are they going port this rubbish to console or something? Are we beta testing for the console because right now you would have to make an effort to make a game as **** as this.

People in this thread were saying about the battles looking arcade and to fast pages ago before release. What were they smoking ?????
 
Jono8 said:
Well more fool them. All i have said is that performance is terrible, which is true and seems to be true for the majority of users on both TW Center and the official total war forums.
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performance seems fine to me. Sure I cant run it maxed out, but them im being realistic.

People complain games dont push their systems, and when they do its the developers fault.

The devs cant test every hardware configuration, and its natural to have teething issues.

I'll bet the number of people posting complaints is less than 1000, yet they'll have sold tens of thousands of copies of the game
 
Jono8 said:
I havent played it properly yet because i cant because the performance is so terrible.

if you love it so much, go and play it : /. You said yourself, the people with no problems are too busy playing it...so...off you go.
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I have always struggled to play TW games for long periods of time so I finished for the evening and came here to have a friendly conversation about how people are finding the game. Is that okay with you?

Sadly when I came here I just found the thread cluttered with "DO NOT BUY. ITS RUBBISH" posted over and over again. Rather difficult to have any sort of conversation about how people's campaigns and whatnot are going when the thread is being spammed to high hell by haters..
 
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