Rome 2 : Total War

BRILLIANT GAME BUT ITS CPU LIMITED TO HELL

I've changed my mind on this game, initially though it was a turd. But after installing direct X direct from disk and new AMD driver its transformed the whole experience for me.

This is the best Total Game so far and will get a lot better still. But you need a very very powerful cpu 4.7GHz or higher i5 or i7 to get this at virtually max!!!



There are 2 very important things people should know

1) It seems to only use 2 cores in campaign mode and 4 cores in battlefield mode. (So this could be a big reason why people actually get better performance in battles with thousands of soldiers!!!)

2) It only uses half the GPU power of a 7970 or 7950 clocked at 1200Mhz, but probably needs over 2Gb for high textures and AA.

This game as it stands needs as high a clock on your cpu as possible.

The roman elite units and the greek Phylanx units are buff..........

So pleased I didn't bin this game its so good for me!!!

This game gets hammered on twcentre.net and by the guardian but I think when its patched it will be a masterpiece....
 
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Currently liking the game, running on extreme settings, havent noticed anything out of the ordinary, apart from im useless and i need to read through a guide to get any good at all.

25~ turns as rome, but 600 income, couldnt do a thing, trying to re start, and other factions, but still the same.

need to take it slow, some good stuff out there to take in.
 
But an i5 3.4Ghz for example is miles ahead of a FX8350 4.7Ghz so it's nothing to do with the game being 'CPU intensive', it's horrible optimisation. Some people with powerful CPUs like myself and many others have horrible performance, whilst people on 4 year old hardware have good performance. There's no technical limitation on anyone who's posted in this thread, it's an issue with the game not the users.
 
Omaeka said:
But an i5 3.4Ghz for example is miles ahead of a FX8350 4.7Ghz so it's nothing to do with the game being 'CPU intensive', it's horrible optimisation. Some people with powerful CPUs like myself and many others have horrible performance, whilst people on 4 year old hardware have good performance. There's no technical limitation on anyone who's posted in this thread, it's an issue with the game not the users.
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To a degree that's true, if it was better optimised then you would require less processing power but as it stands it needs very high clock frequencies and we are not talking poor IPC AMD high clocks either this game needs 4.6-4.7Ghz i5/i7 power!!! My bro has to play this on medium on 3 screens with a 6 core 3930k because the code wont use his cores properly. (He plays battlefield 3 in Ultra which is a FPS at 70 frames Second)

If you got a 3.4Ghz i5 your seriously limited IMO until CA sort out the game code and cpu core usage!!
 
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CaptainRAVE said:
Oh how wonderful, Steam is downloading the whole game again, even though all the files are there. Wonderful, I am off to bed :rolleyes:
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Can't you cancel or pause the download, find Rome 2 in your library and revalidate the files? If not, it should automatically find the files if they are already there, I've never heard of Steam downloading and replacing an entire game. :eek:

dmferrett said:
To a degree that's true, if it was better optimised then you would require less processing power but as it stands it needs very high clock frequencies and we are not talking poor IPC AMD high clocks either this game needs 4.6-4.7Ghz i5/i7 power!!! My bro has to play this on medium on 3 screens with a 6 core 3930k because the code wont use his cores properly. (He plays battlefield 3 in Ultra which is a FPS at 70 frames Second)

If you got a 3.4Ghz i5 your seriously limited IMO until CA sort out the game code and cpu core usage!!
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3.4Ghz 3570k, but overclocking wouldn't be the difference between a juddery game and a smooth game. Of course you can eliminate most of the issues of bad coding and optimisation with pure power, just look at Dark Souls. Several parts of that game dropped below 10fps on the consoles and the developers stated that those areas weren't reoptimised for PC and that people should expect it to drop again, but it didn't. The point is though, that this is 2013, a game like Total War should run silky smooth regardless of the settings and number of units on screen on the hardware that an enthusiast has, Crysis 3 runs like a dream on my PC maxed out (at 1440x900 though, not 1080p) so when this game runs like crap something is seriously up.


WOW! Has anyone had a civil war yet? It's absolutely insane, I'm playing as Sparta and my capital has rebelled and gone into rebel hands instantly, and this is what I was greeted with after being given a mission to 'capture Sparta'.

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I'm so boned. :(
 
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It's tough to stop settlements becoming unhappy, everything you do ****es the peasants off.

Tons of food? = Squalor

Not enough food? = We're ****ed off

Build barracks? = We don't like that either

Too many slaves? = Oh the humanity...


What I hate most is you establish trade routes and your generals fall in love with the foreigners, and he loses gravitas.
 
I had the civil war as Romans and Senate Loyalists appeared in Thracia with 6 stacks of 12 units. Sadly for them I had retrained 3 Legions with level 3 armour and weapons and sent them to that area. Was actually quite nice as the Senate Loyalists took some territory from other factions, which I then took without needing to declare war :).

It is a balancing act to keep people happy. Lower the tax rate, research techs that let you improve happiness. Change temples/shrines to ones that give more happiness.

Look in the province details before you build something that will add unhappiness and see if you have enough happiness to build it. Hover over the happiness bar and it will give you a breakdown.
 
Darujhistan said:
What I hate most is you establish trade routes and your generals fall in love with the foreigners, and he loses gravitas.
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I wouldn't worry about it, I've found that politics doesn't have any influence in the game and it became something I ignored. A completely useless feature which just ends up with your generals constantly being assassinated. (Which doesn't matter either, because he will die of old age in 10 turns.)
 
Fanatic said:
I had the civil war as Romans and Senate Loyalists appeared in Thracia with 6 stacks of 12 units. Sadly for them I had retrained 3 Legions with level 3 armour and weapons and sent them to that area. Was actually quite nice as the Senate Loyalists took some territory from other factions, which I then took without needing to declare war :).

It is a balancing act to keep people happy. Lower the tax rate, research techs that let you improve happiness. Change temples/shrines to ones that give more happiness.

Look in the province details before you build something that will add unhappiness and see if you have enough happiness to build it. Hover over the happiness bar and it will give you a breakdown.
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What exactly triggers a civil war? Is it when your capital has a rebellion? Sparta was something like -2 after building them the best of the best (ungreatful louts!) and I guess 50 or so turns of not paying attention and trying to conquer the world let them declare a civil war. It's horrible mate, 2 of my full stacks in Athens were caught immediately and demolished by 5 of their 6 full stacks, and by the time my 4 other stacks have made it back they've taken Athens, Larissa, Pella, Apollonia and Epidamos. I've managed to kill one of their stacks but now its 4 vs 5, with a heavily wounded 2 stacks v 2 and a 3 v 2 in their favor. I think the civil war milestone is going to wipe me out.

Isn't this what happened to Rome? They stretched their military forces too far and wide, and then fell to civil war and invaders? I'm Sparta not Rome ffs! :D
 
Fanatic said:
I had the civil war as Romans and Senate Loyalists appeared in Thracia with 6 stacks of 12 units. Sadly for them I had retrained 3 Legions with level 3 armour and weapons and sent them to that area. Was actually quite nice as the Senate Loyalists took some territory from other factions, which I then took without needing to declare war :).

It is a balancing act to keep people happy. Lower the tax rate, research techs that let you improve happiness. Change temples/shrines to ones that give more happiness.

Look in the province details before you build something that will add unhappiness and see if you have enough happiness to build it. Hover over the happiness bar and it will give you a breakdown.
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Yeah, I was building a bit wily nily until recently. I tend to get greedy and just think of the coin rolling in!

:)
 
Omaeka said:
What exactly triggers a civil war? Is it when your capital has a rebellion? Sparta was something like -2 after building them the best of the best (ungreatful louts!) and I guess 50 or so turns of not paying attention and trying to conquer the world let them declare a civil war. It's horrible mate, 2 of my full stacks in Athens were caught immediately and demolished by 5 of their 6 full stacks, and by the time my 4 other stacks have made it back they've taken Athens, Larissa, Pella, Apollonia and Epidamos. I've managed to kill one of their stacks but now its 4 vs 5, with a heavily wounded 2 stacks v 2 and a 3 v 2 in their favor. I think the civil war milestone is going to wipe me out.

Isn't this what happened to Rome? They stretched their military forces too far and wide, and then fell to civil war and invaders? I'm Sparta not Rome ffs! :D
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Partly yes.
 
Just finished a battle with 4,000 Celts attacking my Roman Garrison 2600 strong at Marseilles. When I zoom into units I'm seeing 85% cpu usage across 4 cores at 4.7Ghz with an Ivybridge, gpu is 60%, game maxed out. So IMO If you have enough vram on your gpu (3Gb) this game does not seem to be gpu limited with modern gfx cards at 1080 or even 1200. (Single Screen)

So addicted to this game at the moment.
 
Does anyone know if you can change the battle difficulty in an ongoing co-op campaign?

My mate set it up with normal difficulty but as the AI is well....we want to up it but can't find a way to do so. The sliders don't move in the settings screen before the game and everything I find says you can do it from the game settings which is greyed out in the co-op campaign and can find no way to change it otherwise.

Simply cba to start a new campaign as about 30 turns in and the AI takes about 3-7 minutes for their turns to complete :(
 
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