RRS takes out Bikers in NYC!
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Some interesting views being expressed in the US. In some states apparently the RR driver would have been within his rights to come out shooting in order to protect his family and property. Lots of people openly saying they would have done exactly that.
The NRA lobby are saying this is a perfect case where gun posession would make attacking innocent parties that much more dangerous that it wouldn't happen, or where it does Lien would have been able to protect himself and his family.
Obviously missing that such an escalation would likely have resulted in several deaths if both sides posessed guns.
The NRA lobby are saying this is a perfect case where gun posession would make attacking innocent parties that much more dangerous that it wouldn't happen, or where it does Lien would have been able to protect himself and his family.
Obviously missing that such an escalation would likely have resulted in several deaths if both sides posessed guns.
People with alternate views on reality keep the forum interesting. Personally I think it was all the toddlers fault
One of the bikers there also is wearing a helmet camera and it's not the one from the original videos who uploaded the footage.
As for comments about everybody filming and not helping, well it's:
(a) What everybody does these days.
(b) Will actually be useful in this particular case.
(c) Remember we are discussing a guy running from a large gang of bikers. If this just happened in front of you, would you want to mess with a gang of bikers, who are also wearing body armour and helmets? Not to mention you wouldn't even know the circumstances of what is happening. There is a time and a place to intervene in a situation and that wasn't really one of them.
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This seems like exactly what I gathered from the video as well, ANYONE would do the same in his position, soon as that window smashed I would have floored it also.
http://jalopnik.com/everything-you-...ource=jalopnik_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
A good article on what happened that day.
Suspend everyone who sided with the bikers early on as punishment for being wrong + stupid.
Agreed.
A good article on what happened that day.
Suspend everyone who sided with the bikers early on as punishment for being wrong + stupid.
Agreed.
It's actually 100% possible, as its what actually happened. They wanted to stop traffic to pull stunts.
More on this can be read here
http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/a...-man-paralyzed-after-NYC-motorcycle-road-rage
http://www.wtsp.com/news/national/a...-man-paralyzed-after-NYC-motorcycle-road-rage
Here's some footage leading up to the incident.
http://www.********.com/view?i=319_1380522846
It really doesn't show what actually happened when the RRS came to a stop, but clearly the biker (the one thats now being charged) took a disliking to the RRS, and forced him to stop. Question is, is that enough justification to run the rest of the crowd over? I personally think not. Not unless a weapon was shown.. Which as far as we all know, wasn't. Was this a KTFOMW or run for your life reaction? As I said many posts above, the rest of the riders probably had no idea other than ok so there's a kerfuffle going on a few bikes back.. Did any of them deserve to be run down?
Also they didn't stab his tyres out, the sharp protrusions while running over the bikes probably did. Also another point, even after seeing one of their group being run over, and after catching up with him, they didn't kill him. Just gave him a beating, and from what i understand it was just one of them. If they're to be portrayed as the in-human thugs that everyone is claiming them to be, then surely death was on the cards. I'm not so sure if he was at a football match against an apposing side, and took out one of them, would he have escaped with a few cuts and grazes. Anyway my point is were they really the animals everyone immediately portrayed them to be, just cos they're on bikes?
One last point, looking at all the video's, they're not really being all that thuggish. Just pulling a few wheelies here and there and weaving in and out of traffic.
I'm not saying the one who brake tested him wasn't looking for some aggro, but the rest fairly content with just riding in a group. Anyway, just my thoughts.
http://www.********.com/view?i=319_1380522846
It really doesn't show what actually happened when the RRS came to a stop, but clearly the biker (the one thats now being charged) took a disliking to the RRS, and forced him to stop. Question is, is that enough justification to run the rest of the crowd over? I personally think not. Not unless a weapon was shown.. Which as far as we all know, wasn't. Was this a KTFOMW or run for your life reaction? As I said many posts above, the rest of the riders probably had no idea other than ok so there's a kerfuffle going on a few bikes back.. Did any of them deserve to be run down?
Also they didn't stab his tyres out, the sharp protrusions while running over the bikes probably did. Also another point, even after seeing one of their group being run over, and after catching up with him, they didn't kill him. Just gave him a beating, and from what i understand it was just one of them. If they're to be portrayed as the in-human thugs that everyone is claiming them to be, then surely death was on the cards. I'm not so sure if he was at a football match against an apposing side, and took out one of them, would he have escaped with a few cuts and grazes. Anyway my point is were they really the animals everyone immediately portrayed them to be, just cos they're on bikes?
One last point, looking at all the video's, they're not really being all that thuggish. Just pulling a few wheelies here and there and weaving in and out of traffic.
I'm not saying the one who brake tested him wasn't looking for some aggro, but the rest fairly content with just riding in a group. Anyway, just my thoughts.
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Yep.
I think/hope it has come as something of a shock to these idiots that people value their own safety more than they value the lives of the bikers.
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And the safety of his wife and small child.... Bear in mind, the bikers put themselves in the situation of being run over due to their actions. Its not as if the RR driver went out that day looking to run over anyone with his wife and kid in tow.
As research shows, we have a "flight or fight" nature. Damn right I am not going to try and fight a whole pack of bikers ergo, the ONLY reasonable action left is flight.
What would you have done in this EXACT scenario Joshua?
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Looking past your blinkered view point (Have you been to any car meets and seen how many rejects attend those?) Most meets attract fools unfortunately. So, your prior judgement of bikers now reflects on this unrelated incident. You think the RRS driver should get off because of your hatred for bikers, without actually knowing what happened?
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I have to agree with you 100% here, the bikers on this video are nothing like any of the biker I actually know. It's videos like this that give them a bad name.
My understanding is that the RR driver is worth $50m so I assume he will use some of his power to see that the police really go after the bikers.
doubt you would need much money to secure a hefty payout given the video footage
you can get a few million for a being sneezed on in america so I would expect the RRS driver to net circa $98billion
I assume the bikers do not have much money to pay and I assume 3rd party insurance will not cover things like this.