RRS takes out Bikers in NYC!

Glaucus · 3 Oct 2013 at 21:43

PMKeates said:
Are we somehow suggesting that the driver did everything he could to escape?

Locking the doors and nailing it would have gotten him out of there. It's a 2500 Kg SUV with several hundred horsepower and a single flat tyre.

He did do that, then got stuck in a traffic jam, with buildings either side.

Matt82 · 3 Oct 2013 at 21:47

Door not locked youtube clicky

PMKeates · 3 Oct 2013 at 21:48

Glaucus said:
He did do that, then got stuck in a traffic jam, with buildings either side.

Push the cars out of the way, reverse back and push the bikes out of the way, drive on pavement, keep moving backwards and forwards at speed so no human in their right mind will go/survive going near you etc.

Glaucus · 3 Oct 2013 at 21:49

Matt82 said:
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Door locked?

Fair enough, but until that point no one had tried gain entry. Further on its very much locked, which is why they smash the windows in.

Glaucus · 3 Oct 2013 at 21:50

PMKeates said:
Push the cars out of the way, reverse back and push the bikes out of the way, drive on pavement, keep moving backwards and forwards at speed so no human in their right mind will go/survive going near you etc.

Have you seen the video?
How many cars can one rr push out the way? Its not many. 20+ bikes behind + presumably cars as well, so no, it isn't that easy at all, don't you think he would if he could, he already did it once.

Matt82 · 3 Oct 2013 at 21:51

Kenai said:
Oh lawd the trollin'

Gotta say, describing what happens in the video flat out wrong is a bold tactic

oh dear, tongue up glaucus backside fail..

Matt82 · 3 Oct 2013 at 21:52

Glaucus said:
Fair enough, but until that point no one had tried gain entry. Further on its very much locked, which is why they smash the windows in.

i think a door might have been pulled open during the first stop, before he drives over the bike/bikes, the RR is mostly out of shot though

NeedAUsername · 3 Oct 2013 at 21:53

Glaucus said:
Watch the video, he cant turn round, its a street with buildings both sides 20+ bikers behind him(according to the police) and stationery cars in front.
Really looks like he can turn around

He should have seen the non moving traffic before he stopped behind it or reversed, running over some more bikers on the way. He was probably terrified and not thinking right though.
If it was me, I would have just knocked them all of their bike or forced them to crash, after all it is a rather fast and big RR.

Glaucus · 3 Oct 2013 at 21:53

Matt82 said:
oh dear, tongue up glaucus backside fail..

Cmoared to tongue up thugs backside, like you've shown in the rest of the thread. Posting other crap like not charged, yeah because he wasn't involved in the assault and wasn't even on the list of initial possible charges when arrested.
Still no charges against RR driver, Cruz still charged and police still looking for the other guys in the video who did so it.

Glaucus · 3 Oct 2013 at 21:54

NeedAUsername said:
He should have seen the non moving traffic before he stopped behind it or reversed, running over some more bikers on the way. He was probably terrified and not thinking right though.
If it was me, I would have just knocked them all of their bike or forced them to crash, after all it is a rather fast and big RR.

And where was the last turn off? What traffic was on that last turn off? When could he spot this traffic? You make it sound so easy.
Do you live in a city, traffic isn't good.

Matt82 · 3 Oct 2013 at 21:56

Matt82 said:
i think a door might have been pulled open during the first stop, before he drives over the bike/bikes, the RR is mostly out of shot though

48s Youtube Clicky

Looking closely, there is no sign of doors being opened before he sets off and drives over the bikes

Kenai · 3 Oct 2013 at 21:57

Matt82 said:
oh dear, tongue up glaucus backside fail..

Just keep trollin', just keep trollin'

You're more transparent than a bloody window, it'd be embarrassing if it wasn't so funny to watch everyone carry on biting.

Matt82 · 3 Oct 2013 at 21:59

Glaucus said:
Cmoared to tongue up thugs backside, like you've shown in the rest of the thread. Posting other crap like not charged, yeah because he wasn't involved in the assault and wasn't even on the list of initial possible charges when arrested.
Still no charges against RR driver, Cruz still charged and police still looking for the other guys in the video who did so it.

Im not trying to prove a right or wrong here, Ive got access to exactly the same information as everyone else, I dont think we'll know whats right or wrong until we know what happened leading up to the video. Ive obviously got a different opinion to you but then that could all change when we know what caused it all.

PMKeates · 3 Oct 2013 at 22:00

Glaucus said:
Have you seen the video?
How many cars can one rr push out the way? Its not many. 20+ bikes behind + presumably cars as well, so no, it isn't that easy at all, don't you think he would if he could, he already did it once.

I have, and it's more than capable of ramming a couple and pushing them forward, bearing in mind these people will quite quickly move the crap out of the way of a madman in an SUV.

It is quite possible to maneuver a car, even in a tight space, to make it so you simply cannot be stopped by people on foot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCeoGoL3QG0&feature=youtu.be&t=48s This section of video proves exactly how completely irrelevant the bikes are to the path the RR is taking. It's literally like a 6ft man weighing 400 lbs having a dozen 2 year olds in his way.

Skunkworks · 3 Oct 2013 at 22:07

There may be limits he was prepared to go to in escaping. To escape the final situation would have likely ended in carnage.

PMKeates · 3 Oct 2013 at 22:08

Skunkworks said:
There may be limits he was prepared to go to in escaping. To escape the final situation would have likely ended in carnage.

Agreed. He effectively decided that he didn't want to escalate any further. Any notion that nothing else was possible to escape is utterly ridiculous.

NeedAUsername · 3 Oct 2013 at 22:09

Glaucus said:
And where was the last turn off? What traffic was on that last turn off? When could he spot this traffic? You make it sound so easy.
Do you live in a city, traffic isn't good.

He should have floored it on the freeway or reversed when he got stuck in traffic. There was free space behind him, just bikers behind him, reverse over them all and go another way.

Rroff · 3 Oct 2013 at 22:14

Matt82 said:
48s Youtube Clicky

Looking closely, there is no sign of doors being opened before he sets off and drives over the bikes

Actually there is if you look closely... trip to opticians suggested.

Matt82 · 3 Oct 2013 at 22:16

I couldnt see it, i was wrong then (Housey, i was wrong)

Oh well, going back a few posts then, it seems he didnt bother locking the doors between the 1st stop and 2nd stop.

Glaucus · 3 Oct 2013 at 22:30

PMKeates said:
I have, and it's more than capable of ramming a couple and pushing them forward, bearing in mind these people will quite quickly move the crap out of the way of a madman in an SUV.

It is quite possible to maneuver a car, even in a tight space, to make it so you simply cannot be stopped by people on foot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCeoGoL3QG0&feature=youtu.be&t=48s This section of video proves exactly how completely irrelevant the bikes are to the path the RR is taking. It's literally like a 6ft man weighing 400 lbs having a dozen 2 year olds in his way.

Its not motorbikes or people on feet though is it, its a line of cars and other vehicles, he ain't going to plough through that.