RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Wow blast from the past - didn't realise Gainward were still making Graphics cards

They make RTX3090 and RTX4090 cards still.

 

[CuriousTomCat]

Well the £ has also collapsed against the $, as has the Euro. So local pricing will be above 2020 prices even before infaltion.

You can't blame the price increase on the weak £

3070 MSRP $499
4070 MSRP $599

Allowing for inflation, the 4070 should have cost $564.25

I've based those figures purely on US pricing and US inflation to rule out the weak pound. Nvidia have charged $34.75 more than they needed to. They also posted record profits. Coincidence?

Nvidia's greed is even worse when you consider the 4070 should really be called a 4060 Ti and that's at a push.

 

[Hawk Tuah]

Is 'LHR' not a thing anymore with the 40 series?

 

[Jono8]

You can't blame the price increase on the weak £

3070 MSRP $499
4070 MSRP $599

Allowing for inflation, the 4070 should have cost $564.25

I've based those figures purely on US pricing and US inflation to rule out the weak pound. Nvidia have charged $34.75 more than they needed to. They also posted record profits. Coincidence?

Nvidia's greed is even worse when you consider the 4070 should really be called a 4060 Ti and that's at a push.

It's a xx60 card, marketed as a xx70 card and sold at a xx80 price.

 

[von Humboldt]

£550, 4070, now on offer.

Gainward GeForce RTX 4070 Ghost 12GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card

Order Gainward GeForce RTX 4070 Ghost 12GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card now online and benefit from fast delivery.

www.overclockers.co.uk

As an aside, I like the look of that card - it lacks the pixie diarrhoea we see on most cards these days. Still overpriced though!

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

As an aside, I like the look of that card - it lacks the pixie diarrhoea we see on most cards these days. Still overpriced though!

Their GTX660TI looked awesome:

Gainward GeForce GTX 660 Ti Phantom – The Silent Beast

 

[Author_25]

As an aside, I like the look of that card - it lacks the pixie diarrhoea we see on most cards these days. Still overpriced though!

£500 to £520 would be nice, doubtful would go below £500, until EOL.

 

[gpuerrilla]

You can't blame the price increase on the weak £

Allowing for inflation, the 4070 should have cost $564.25

I've based those figures purely on US pricing and US inflation to rule out the weak pound. Nvidia have charged $34.75 more than they needed to. They also posted record profits. Coincidence?

Nvidia's greed is even worse when you consider the 4070 should really be called a 4060 Ti and that's at a push.

It's a xx60 card, marketed as a xx70 card and sold at a xx80 price.

Good to see its digested and now the wider public are realising what's been going on for a while.

 

[Murphy]

That's like complaining that your newer, more powerful 1.6 diesel engine should be cheaper than your old 2.2 TDI engine.

Simple fact is that many things cost more than they used to. Nvidia will charge what they think people are willing to pay, simple as. Hopefully, poor sales will start knocking down prices. But you aren't ever going to see 7X series cards in the £200's again.

Try learning about what Moore's law is.

 

[gpuerrilla]

But Master Jensen said it was dead...

 

[Murphy]

If that's truly the case then there's no reason to buy a new GPU because if I'm not going to get more transistors, and by extension more performance, there's no point in buying a new GPU.

e: Plus the analogy used by Bug One was so deeply flawed it was laughable, what would be more analogous would be something like HP or 0-60 times.

 

[Author_25]

If that's truly the case then there's no reason to buy a new GPU because if I'm not going to get more transistors, and by extension more performance, there's no point in buying a new GPU.

e: Plus the analogy used by Bug One was so deeply flawed it was laughable, what would be more analogous would be something like HP or 0-60 times.

New Architectures will have more performance just not the large leaps we are used to anymore, so less value in upgrading from the previous generation.

 

[Minusorange]

If that's truly the case then there's no reason to buy a new GPU because if I'm not going to get more transistors, and by extension more performance, there's no point in buying a new GPU.

e: Plus the analogy used by Bug One was so deeply flawed it was laughable, what would be more analogous would be something like HP or 0-60 times.

Maybe that's why they're being scrooges on the VRAM, future cards will have same cores but just more VRAM for 5x the price of previous gen because

 

[Rup]

You can't blame the price increase on the weak £

3070 MSRP $499
4070 MSRP $599

Allowing for inflation, the 4070 should have cost $564.25

I've based those figures purely on US pricing and US inflation to rule out the weak pound. Nvidia have charged $34.75 more than they needed to. They also posted record profits. Coincidence?

Nvidia's greed is even worse when you consider the 4070 should really be called a 4060 Ti and that's at a push.

I'm not blaming the weak £ completely, but clearly it's a factor on UK prices.
Nvidia's real profits are in their AI products, not GPU's.

 

[Purgatory]

 

[Major774]

Sweet… UK retailers battling out on low prices.

 

[Purgatory]

Dude can you *please* stop whipping that chart out 5 times a day, sick of seeing it!!!

Sad thing is that chart shows the reality and why the whole ADA situation is funny and unreal that people defend what is going on.

As they say...

 

[Purgatory]

Wow blast from the past - didn't realise Gainward were still making Graphics cards

pretty sure they made the vajazzled 4090 didnt they?

They are part of the Palit company and basically palit cards with different cooler designs but same pcbs normally. Palit has many company names they hold and sell their cards under, just normally same pcbs and different coolers and a different name on the box but the same product really and just made for different markets.

Palit Microsystems - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Palit Microsystems, Ltd. is a Taiwanese-based company, founded in 1988. It is known for exclusive manufacturing of graphic cards on the basis of Nvidia & ATI graphic chipsets. Palit's factories are found in Mainland, China, while the offices are in Taipei, Taiwan, a logistics center in Hong Kong, China, and branch office in Germany.[1]

Palit Microsystems runs two major brands, Palit, and Gainward, which target different global markets, and other brands like Daytona, Galaxy (GALAX), Vivkoo, Yuan, KFA2 and XpertVision. It also contract-manufactures graphics cards for other companies. In 2013 Palit Microsystems surpassed ASUSTek, becoming the biggest graphics card vendor by volume.[2][3] Palit Microsystems' monthly maximum capacity reaches 1,200,000 units.[1][4] As of 2011 Palit's production share was about at 20–25% of world market of graphics solutions.[buzzword] In the same time on the Russian market Palit had more than 40%, in Ukraine – about 30%.[5]

In 2005 Palit Microsystems acquired the Gainward brand, company and branch Gainward Europe GmbH for $1 million of Taiwan-based TNC Industrial.[6]

 

[Calin Banc]

But Master Jensen said it was dead...

3090 density: 45.1mil/mm2
4090 density: 145.5mil/mm2

about 2.8x more in 2 years.
RT performance is about double without FG and specific optimizations.

Not that its death won't come, but is just marketing so we forgo to ask or think too much on what they're doing.

 

[Joxeon]

Well the £ has also collapsed against the $, as has the Euro. So local pricing will be above 2020 prices even before infaltion.

When the 3080 launched the pound was 1.29 vs the dollar its now at 1.24 so hardly a collapse.