RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

[Gibbo]

Your website seems to differ 3070Ti, 3080, 6800XT, 6900XT, 6950XT. When you factor in price/frame why buy the older stuff if the 4070 is a similar performance, uses less power and has newer features?

I don't consider I need to shift them, considering our total stock of 3070ti is less than 50 units, 3070 even less and on AMD side were holding more because the sales are simply amazing on those parts, 16G VRAM on a much wider memory bus, plenty of demand currently and will remain to be.

I have no worries with my stock and have 1000+ on 4070 on shelf now ready with 1000+ more on the way.

 

[Troezar]

I don't consider I need to shift them, considering our total stock of 3070ti is less than 50 units, 3070 even less and on AMD side were holding more because the sales are simply amazing on those parts, 16G VRAM on a much wider memory bus, plenty of demand currently and will remain to be.

I have no worries with my stock and have 1000+ on 4070 on shelf now ready with 1000+ more on the way.

I trust your judgement, you know your business better than I do. I prefer AMD, but even I look at the relative prices and can see why buyers will go for the 4070 despite the feeling on here it's not a great deal. Lower power use, DLSS and RT features and no doubt better resale over the previous gen. I'd say in the current (expensive)market the 4070 is a decent 1440p card, under £600

 

[Jono8]

How much is this thing going to be, in reality, great British pounds....?

Because, um? £590.

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But why would you buy that now, for the same money, when the 4070 is loads more efficient, and has better ray tracing?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I trust your judgement, you know your business better than I do. I prefer AMD, but even I look at the relative prices and can see why buyers will go for the 4070 despite the feeling on here it's not a great deal. Lower power use, DLSS and RT features and no doubt better resale over the previous gen. I'd say in the current (expensive)market the 4070 is a decent 1440p card, under £600

Except the RTX3080 was meant to be a decent entry level 4K card. Wasn't the RTX3070 at £470 meant to be the premium qHD card? It just seems this is really Turing all over again,but people seem more desperate because things have gotten so bad since 2021!

It seems motherboards and dGPUs are bucking the trend of everything else getting cheaper. No wonder Nvidia is cutting TSMC orders and has $5.2 billion of unsold inventory. PC sales are going down the drain everywhere.

 

[Gibbo]

I trust your judgement, you know your business better than I do. I prefer AMD, but even I look at the relative prices and can see why buyers will go for the 4070 despite the feeling on here it's not a great deal. Lower power use, DLSS and RT features and no doubt better resale over the previous gen. I'd say in the current (expensive)market the 4070 is a decent 1440p card, under £600

I am expecting to sell thousands of the 4070, the 4070Ti is a very strong seller in the £799-£849 price range, the 4070 is only upto 20% slower and is perfect for 1080P/1440P gaming and will be price typically £589-£649 so I expect it to be a very strong seller.

30 series is a no worry to OcUK we have literally no stock left of anything above 3060Ti, so we are in very good shape.
Our stock on AMD 6800 upwards is minimal but our sales are strong, again great shape for OcUK.

No idea what other resellers position is but I don't work for them, I have OcUK very well positioned with no stock issues on old product to be worried about, we can just focus on the nice new shiny 40 series.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I wonder what Nvidia are doing with their over $5 billion of inventory? It's doubled in a year.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The important question now is.....does it run Crysis....oops Crysis Remastered...sorry Cyberpunk 2077....I meant pathtraced Cyberpunk 2077?

 

[Troezar]

Interesting times, all seems to be in a state of flux at the moment. Time to sit on my hands for a couple of months I think and see what happens with AMD midrange, EOL cards and what Nvidia prices look like. AMD need to look really hard at their pricing or even their usual customers may just buy the competition...

 

[Gibbo]

Hi there

Those buying a 4070 please take note there are two types of 4070, 1x 8-Pin models and 1x 16-pin 12V models, the latter require the new connector and maybe boost a little higher in frequency, but also cost more been flagship OC models.

 

[Troezar]

Hi there

Those buying a 4070 please take note there are two types of 4070, 1x 8-Pin models and 1x 16-pin 12V models, the latter require the new connector and boost a little higher in frequency, but also cost more been flagship OC models.

I've not been following it that closely, does the 16-pin adapt to older style PSU's or do they need an ATX 3.0 power supply?

 

[Gibbo]

I've not been following it that closely, does the 16-pin adapt to older style PSU's or do they need an ATX 3.0 power supply?

I believe an adaptor works fine, we expect majority of sales to be on the 8-pin parts.

 

[Armageus]

I've not been following it that closely, does the 16-pin adapt to older style PSU's or do they need an ATX 3.0 power supply?

There are various adapters available, but generally you have to get them from your PSU manufacturer rather than them being generic ones e.g.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x be quiet! 12VHPWR Pci-E Adapter Cable (SKU: CB-000-BQ) = £16.99
• 1 x Phanteks 750mm Dual 8pin to 12+4 12VHPWR Adapter Cable (Black) (SKU: CA-0C3-PT) = £19.99

Total: £44.98 (includes delivery: £8.00)​

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Various other cablemod sets are available for different PSU manufacturers though:

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EDIT:
Most cards that need 16 pin will likely come with an adapter e.g. Gigabyte state "3. One 16-pin to two 8-pin power adaptor" under the accessories section

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[humbug]

But why would you buy that now, for the same money, when the 4070 is loads more efficient, and has better ray tracing?

For the same money you wouldn't, its why i'm asking about the actual cost.

 

[Ayahuasca]

For the same money you wouldn't, its why i'm asking about the actual cost.

£89 isn't enough to sway it, if it was, AMD wouldn't have the dGPU market share they currently do.

 

[Alt0153]

I've not been following it that closely, does the 16-pin adapt to older style PSU's or do they need an ATX 3.0 power supply?

you get a baby octopus

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

From Paul's Hardware:

 

[Eddie99]

Just seems like a weird move IMO, I can’t see any benefit to it.

Just keep the 3090 until the 50 series. It’s still a desirable card.

For @Ayahuasca use case playing competitive shooters at 1080p it makes complete sense to switch from a 3090 to a 4070. Performance is almost the same at 1080p, so the 4070 will be faster since they are currently using a power limit because of the heat output. They could sell the 3090 for about £650, buy a 4070 for £590 with a fresh new warranty, save a load of money on power bills over the next couple of years and be much more comfortable gaming in the summer.

Spoiler: 1080p Performance

Spoiler: Power Consumption

 

[ASMB]

From the reviews that I have seen the 4070 performance isn't consistent across games. I would like to have seen the 4070 always beat the previous generation 6800, as the MRSP for the 4070 is very slightly higher than the 6800 and the 4070 has less vram, yet the 6800 can sometimes beat the 4070 at 1440p, https://youtu.be/DNX6fSeYYT8?t=657

If AMD gets FSR3 to work on the 6000 series then I would be interested in how the 6800/XT performs against the 4070 using dlss3 v fsr3

 

[rare]

From Paul's Hardware:

Now it’s about average of 2% faster than the 3080 which launched about 2 years and 8 months ago. EXCITING.

 

[timorous]

What does the amount of work not worth mean? I'm sure it's worth it for the customer buying your game, right?

My problem isn't that the games require a lot of vram. I wish they required 48 gb of vram, no problem with that. My problem is that the games that require a ton of vram usually look either terrible or barely passable, compared to games that do not hog vram like crazy. How is that happening if the issue isn't 100% on the devs being absurdly lazy on said games.

Given the disparity in console vs PC sales why spend a lot of time on the PC version, target the console version and make people turn settings down on the PC like they did post PS4 cross gen period and in prior console gens when the new stuff was out of the cross gen phase.

4GB cards bit the dust hard when that happened last time around and now 8GB cards are biting the dust. Same will happen to 16GB cards next gen when the cross gen period ends.