Well following my re-entering the pc game in Xmas 2021 with my only affordable option being the 5700g apu (during peak mining madness). I've been as patient as a mofo. I passed on all 6800xt deals after the mining craze ended thinking the GPU market would crash & lead to cheaper sensible prices which we all know just never came. The notion of paying more than £500 for old gen gfx at this point in time just didn't make sense to me. Some will say the 6800xt is better value and trust me I wanted to go team Radeon as I loved the old ati cards back in the day. I really hope amd can pull a blinder with the 7800xt but I just don't see them even trying to compete anymore. They seem to be comfortable with just ticking over for now. That's why I opted for the 4070. It will keep me in high fps for a few years hopefully and I can get on with enjoying games like acc + future titles with a card that has all the bells & whistles without feature compromises (which I need) at a price that works for me in this upside down market. Hopefully the Chinese will work out how to make premium gfx cards at a fair price like they did with the mobile phone market, just in time for my next upgrade.
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RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?
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@TNA and there we go with 'playing the victim card', still pushing that I'm the bad un even though I got the data out on here before Hub and others exposed it, if everyone debated instead of losing their mind because they get upset their fave manufacturer has a weakness, we'd have better vram/RT performance all round and more so a better community.
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@TNA and there we go with 'playing the victim card', still pushing that I'm the bad un even though I got the data out on here before Hub and others exposed it, if everyone debated instead of losing their mind because they get upset their fave manufacturer has a weakness, we'd have better vram/RT performance all round and more so a better community.
Never said you were bad un. It's a fun debate about graphics cards.
Meh. Anyway, back on topic
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Good?
"Someone".
Capable without software hacks?
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I'm looking forward to the consumer version of this Navi31 based card:
45 TFlops, 70 CUs, 260w power consumption.
Same memory bandwidth as the RX 7900 XT.
260w power usage - Looks efficient. Looks like the boost clock is slightly higher than the 7900 XT also.
45 TFlops, 70 CUs, 260w power consumption.
Same memory bandwidth as the RX 7900 XT.
260w power usage - Looks efficient. Looks like the boost clock is slightly higher than the 7900 XT also.
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He was half right, got the top end of the scale for 4070 pricing.
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There's also the 'supposed' Nv price reduction that was doing the rounds, and time will tell if the £589 cards will be eol when they sell out or they are always going to be available, it's all very muddy just now.
Not that I'm advocating the guy, he's not my cup of tea.
Well I nearly bought the WF I don't know how many times today.
But you could be right, you can go all the way back to the 1070 launch that sold out day 1, first time they've not sold out, so another win for voting with your wallets Nv and AMD!
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I love a new GPU release even when it’s not that exciting, I’ve followed all of them for around 25 years (crazy!). However, now this one is over, even I’m struggling to look forward to the 4060…I guess at least we will have much to rant about 
Personally looking forward to the £700 4060 ROG 8GB 128bit
Personally looking forward to the £700 4060 ROG 8GB 128bit
Of course it's guesswork, they all have contacts though, Nv wanted £900 for the 4080 12Gb if they could have got away with it, so what do you think Nv's planned price for the 470 in leatherjacket land was?
Nah, it'll be £679 tops
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That guys a complete gimp. No idea how people still watch him thinking he has some insider knowledge. Scrapes rumours up and passes them off as his knowledge.
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I wonder what's going on with AMD.
Maybe they are waiting for the RTX 3080 and 3080 TI to completely sell out.
EDIT - someone pointed out this professional card that gives me some hope. It's essentially a cut down RX 7900 XT, but with 32GB of VRAM:
AMD Radeon PRO W7800 Specs
AMD Navi 31, 2525 MHz, 4480 Cores, 280 TMUs, 128 ROPs, 32768 MB GDDR6, 2250 MHz, 256 bitwww.techpowerup.com
It certainly demonstrates that Navi31 can be cut down a bit further.
32GB of VRAM is a tad expensive at this point
We just need AMD to release a 16GB consumer version of this card.
The naming scheme suggests it's of the '7800' product class, it's something of a hint I think.
The RX7900XT has 20% more shaders than the AMD Radeon PRO W7800,so around RX6900XT level performance?
What the US audience isn't lapping up is 4070s. A quick look on their well known big computer online retailer shows cards still in stock. Nvidia don't seem to have realised how many cards they sold at crazy prices purely because of the mining boom. 4070s can be found cheaper in the USA than here as well, eg the
SKU:6540002
$679.99 in the USA, over £730 in the UK
ASUS - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Overclock 12GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card
Model:TUF-RTX4070-O12G-GAMINGSKU:6540002
$679.99 in the USA, over £730 in the UK
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