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RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

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ASMB said:
What the US audience isn't lapping up is 4070s. A quick look on their well known big computer online retailer shows cards still in stock. Nvidia don't seem to have realised how many cards they sold at crazy prices purely because of the mining boom. 4070s can be found cheaper in the USA than here as well, eg the

ASUS - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Overclock 12GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card​

Model:TUF-RTX4070-O12G-GAMING
SKU:6540002


Front Zoom. ASUS - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Overclock 12GB GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card.


$679.99 in the USA, over £730 in the UK
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Just no. If I add that to the basket and then go to ship to California I get free shipping... and $52.70 sales tax.

If our shops in the UK displayed without VAT we could be saying that card was £608.34 :p
 
Hotwired said:
Just no. If I add that to the basket and then go to ship to California I get free shipping... and $52.70 sales tax.

If our shops in the UK displayed without VAT we could be saying that card was £608.34 :p
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You have to take into account the exchange rate. Also you cannot take away our vat but add their sales tax, plus sales tax various from state to state in the USA
 
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Hotwired said:
Right but what is listed in their shops can't be compared directly to what is listed in ours.
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Microsoft bing tells me that 679.99 dollars is 542.91 pounds. Add 20% VAT, UK shop price would be £651.49

If I had it shipped to my home in USA I would pay 679.99 dollars plus sales tax = £708.68 dollars. At the exchange rate that is £565.53 according to google. (sometimes when ordering online I haven't even been charged sales tax when ordering with my UK debit card and had it shipped to my USA address, (although I don't know why as I believe I always should have been))
 
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The Last of Us Part I:
youtu.be

The Last of Us Part 1 : RTX 4070 + R7 5800X3D | 4K - 1440p - 1080p | Ultra | DLSS

RTX 4070 12GB / Ryzen 7 5800X3D / Nvidia Driver 531.61 RTX 4070 Playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa2kK5dohjHknDePXGPBRtY4fPwnjAKR6️Windows...
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He's getting ~52 FPS, with 1% lows a bit below that at 1440p.

'The performance is OK'.

'I was expecting 60'.

Performance is generally similar to an RTX 3080 in this title, with a lower average framerate.

GPU usage remains at ~99% even below 60 frames.
 
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Hotwired said:
Just no. If I add that to the basket and then go to ship to California I get free shipping... and $52.70 sales tax.

If our shops in the UK displayed without VAT we could be saying that card was £608.34 :p
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This is something I don't understand. Why are NVIDIA pitching the cards so much more expensive in the UK? I don't think this is the shops. There is an outlet that I will not name that sells directly from the US to the UK, and including delivery and taxes they are about 10% cheaper than anywhere in the UK. With current prices, 10% is a lot of difference.

And that is an outrageous price. Yet, once again, people seem to be paying it. Honestly, I despair, what the heck is wrong with these people? Please give me some money, you obviously have it to burn!
 
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Chaps, MSI's RTX 4070 Gaming X Trio has a higher maximum power limit (240w) than other versions of the card:

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The performance does seem to be a little better in games when overclocked. It uses a 16-pin 12VHPWR power connector - maybe the only 4070 non reference model that does?

It's priced >£600 in the UK though.
 
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Duderoo said:
Well following my re-entering the pc game in Xmas 2021 with my only affordable option being the 5700g apu (during peak mining madness). I've been as patient as a mofo. I passed on all 6800xt deals after the mining craze ended thinking the GPU market would crash & lead to cheaper sensible prices which we all know just never came. The notion of paying more than £500 for old gen gfx at this point in time just didn't make sense to me. Some will say the 6800xt is better value and trust me I wanted to go team Radeon as I loved the old ati cards back in the day. I really hope amd can pull a blinder with the 7800xt but I just don't see them even trying to compete anymore. They seem to be comfortable with just ticking over for now. That's why I opted for the 4070. It will keep me in high fps for a few years hopefully and I can get on with enjoying games like acc + future titles with a card that has all the bells & whistles without feature compromises (which I need) at a price that works for me in this upside down market. Hopefully the Chinese will work out how to make premium gfx cards at a fair price like they did with the mobile phone market, just in time for my next upgrade.
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lol no it wont, its 12gb Vram, "high fps few years" LOL...goodluck with that, you literally passed on cards that are CHEAPER and have more VRAM making them MORE future proof....You literally just became the definition of Nvidia bot, blind loyalty, you waited ALL this time to buy one of, if not the worst value mid range Nvidia cards in the last 10 years. Good job.
 
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g67575 said:
Chaps, MSI's RTX 4070 Gaming X Trio has a higher maximum power limit (240w) than other versions of the card:

tdp-adjustment-limit.png


The performance does seem to be a little better in games when overclocked. It uses a 16-pin 12VHPWR power connector - maybe the only 4070 model that does?

It's priced >£600 in the UK though.
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A 40W difference between the Jetstream and Gaming X is a fair bit.
 
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g67575 said:
The Last of Us Part I:
youtu.be

The Last of Us Part 1 : RTX 4070 + R7 5800X3D | 4K - 1440p - 1080p | Ultra | DLSS

RTX 4070 12GB / Ryzen 7 5800X3D / Nvidia Driver 531.61 RTX 4070 Playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLa2kK5dohjHknDePXGPBRtY4fPwnjAKR6️Windows...
youtu.be youtu.be

He's getting ~52 FPS, with 1% lows a bit below that at 1440p.

'The performance is OK'.

'I was expecting 60'.

Performance is generally similar to an RTX 3080 in this title, with a lower average framerate.

GPU usage remains at ~99% even below 60 frames.
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Performance is not okay, you are paying close to £600
 
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tommybhoy said:
The only issue it's gave me is the grief for capturing it, putting the data out and talking about it.

Always said they are great cards, but they have aged like milk.

Upwards from the 4070, I'm not seeing any vfm out with the 4090 and I already sent one back out of fear of scratching it when installing it and being stuck with a coil whining GPU.

I can take the hit with scratching a £600 GPU, but not taking the hit if something goes wrong testing for coil whine.
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I don't disagree or doubt any of that.

But question was why don't you consider amds alternatives? :p Is there something you need that only nvidia provides?
 
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g67575 said:
I'm looking forward to the consumer version of this Navi31 based card:

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45 TFlops, 70 CUs, 260w power consumption.

Same memory bandwidth as the RX 7900 XT.

260w power usage - Looks efficient. Looks like the boost clock is slightly higher than the 7900 XT also.
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Needs to be £500, or people will just go Nvidia for DLSS and better drivers.
 
It seems a bit stupid to use a 16-pin 12VHPWR with a couple of models of the 4070, when they could just use 2x8 pin PCIE cables instead (like AMD does on cards that need it).

Also, just 1x8 pin cable on most 4070s for some reason. That limits max power consumption to "150W from PCIe 8pin connector + 75W from PCIe motherboard slot".

Is it a cost saving measure, I wonder?
 
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So a 3080 FE was £650 two years ago (if you could get one). I paid £480 for my 3070 FE which was 2080Ti performance.

Now we have the 4070 which is basically 3080 performance with 2Gb extra VRAM for cheapest £580, so £70 cheaper than the 3080 FE was.

I suppose it is a slight advancement but nowhere near enough of an improvement to justify an upgrade. If you were building a new system now or upgrading from an older card I would want much more power than the 4070 offers.
 
TNA said:
The fact that he would even be considering a 12gb card after making his dodgy is 12gb enough thread also says a lot :cry:
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tommybhoy said:
@TNA

12Gbs the new minimum now so less of a gamble a 4070 won't be toast@1080p.

Says a lot you can't play along and always always have to have a dig.

Just like your comment there, I can't help it if people cause chaos on threads getting them closed.
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TNA said:
Here we go again, playing the victim card. Dude you was the one who made the 12gb thread that got locked, not me :D

It was not even done on good faith as you refused to update the OP and was just enjoying the wind up.

I play along fine. But anyway, let's get back on topic :)
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Guys, Seriously...

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