RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

[Troezar]

Anyone hear that echo?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Wasn't the 9700 or the 9500 a pencil mod to unlock it?.

Omega drivers?

Fun times. Now they want £1000+ for the unlocked card

It's not even fully unlocked!

 

[SpellowHouse]

I see they are still available. Obviously not selling as well as NVIDIA hoped.
We should have a vote - who is surprised. The one vote that says "yes" is Jensen in disguise.

 

[Journey]

It is a mighty tough call the RTX 4070 at ~£580-600, I just did a build today and the RX 6800 (non-XT) that I used was bought for £485, although it seems to be ~£510 now. It also looks like the 6800's are becoming harder to get, so perhaps there is an RX 7800 on the horizon which would make that choice even harder vs the 4070.

Going to be a semi-interesting couple of months for mid-range buyers looking to get the best VFM, you've got so many considerations to take into account these days, with all the different features for the different camps. I do wonder with how soft the PC market place which will be the first to start pushing prices down not up.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

wonder how much stock OcUK has of the 4070 left

 

[g67575]

It does sound AMD might be planning for FSR3 to work RDNA2 cards, based on this:

"The most important thing to remember is that the philosophy of the FSR and the FSR so far not only work with RDNA 2 or RDNA 1, but also with other generations of AMD graphics cards. They also work on competitor graphics cards. It is exponentially more difficult than if only we could make it work on RDNA 3. We really want to work on something other than RDNA 3" - Frank Azor, November 2022.

 

[JediFragger]

It does sound AMD might be planning to for FSR3 to work RDNA2 cards, based on this:

Nah it'll branch off, it has to. rDNA3 has AI capabilities, just guess their driver guy is figuring out how to use the damn thing still

 

[g67575]

I also think that because FSR2 is already quite good, that DLSS2 on it's own doesn't really give an advantage to the RTX 4070, compared to cards like the RX 6800 XT or RX 6900 series.

 

[g67575]

Nah it'll branch off, it has to. rDNA3 has AI capabilities, just guess their driver guy is figuring out how to use the damn thing still

I'm guessing that FSR 3 will give better image quality than FSR 2, but performance benefits in supported games (via frame generation) will be limited to the RDNA3 series.

DLSS3 (Nvidia frame gen) is only supported on cards with the latest 'optical flow accelerators'. It might be possible to implement the feature on older Ampere cards also, but according to Nvidia engineer Catanzaro:

"in its current state, [DLSS3] only works on the GeForce RTX 40-series graphics cards. The Nvidia engineer did leave the door open for backwards compatibility, stating that it's theoretically possible to get DLSS 3 working on previous generation GeForce graphics cards, such as the RTX 30-series (Ampere) or RTX 20-series (Turing) offerings. However, Catanzaro believes that DLSS 3 won't offer much benefit for owners of legacy GeForce graphics cards".

 

[Joxeon]

I think Nvidia has learned this gen that they can overcharge those buying the halo card but overcharging everyone else leads to poor sales which is bound to be a big hit to the financials as the cheaper cards make more revenue.

 

[TNA]

I think Nvidia has learned this gen that they can overcharge those buying the halo card but overcharging everyone else leads to poor sales which is bound to be a big hit to the financials as the cheaper cards make more revenue.

Hopefully. I loved how they did it with Pascal. Charged me £650 for the 3080 FE and charged others £1400 For the extra 15% performance. That’s how it should be done. There will always be loads of people with the attitude of ”only the best for me” milk them!

 

[MCFC_ANDY]

 

[Joxeon]

Price per CUDA

Ampere

3090 > $0.142
3080 > $0.080
3070ti > $0.097
3070 > $0.084
3060ti > $0.082

ADA

4090 > $0.097
4080 > $0.123
4070ti > $0.104
4070 > $0.101
4060ti?? > $0.103 assuming the spec is correct and the price is $450

So for ampere the 3080 had the best price per CUDA while the 3090 was the worse, the 3070 and 3060ti were also very good but the 3070ti was quite poor in comparison.

For ADA its the compete opposite with now the 4090 is offering the best price per CUDA while the 4080 is by far the worse with the rest still above $0.10

 

[Buckster]

Plenty of choice available in stock lol

 

[JediFragger]

4090 > $0.097

Awesome value tbf.

 

[gpuerrilla]

wonder how much stock OcUK has of the 4070 left

Looks like plenty, and still at or below msrp..

 

[JediFragger]

Hilarious that @BigBANGtheory thinks that 4070 has a 2 week sales window rather than 2 years

 

[robgmun]

Price per CUDA

Ampere

3090 > $0.142
3080 > $0.080
3070ti > $0.097
3070 > $0.084
3060ti > $0.082

ADA

4090 > $0.097
4080 > $0.123
4070ti > $0.104
4070 > $0.101
4060ti?? > $0.103 assuming the spec is correct and the price is $450

So for ampere the 3080 had the best price per CUDA while the 3090 was the worse, the 3070 and 3060ti were also very good but the 3070ti was quite poor in comparison.

For ADA its the compete opposite with now the 4090 is offering the best price per CUDA while the 4080 is by far the worse with the rest still above $0.10

Aren't CUDA's different for Ampere and ADA? I thought ADA CUDA's were more efficient and each are roughly 1.5x the performance of the Ampere CUDA's? So a direct comparison isn't right

 

[robgmun]

I think once the 4070 hit £499 it'll be a compelling buy. That's when i jump, no matter how long the wait

 

[g67575]

I think once the 4070 hit £499 it'll be a compelling buy. That's when i jump, no matter how long the wait

Given the prices of Navi21 cards now, I'd agree.

With the RTX 4070, you're effectively getting a super overclocked RTX 3070 (which was quite power efficient already), it has the same shader count, with slightly higher memory bandwidth, and more L2 cache. The pixel rate of the 4070 is slightly lower than the RTX 3070's at stock.