RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

[g67575]

I wonder if Nvidia will release a RTX 4070 Super eventually, that actually has more shaders than the RTX 3070? It could fit somewhere inbetween the 4070 and 4070 TI.

I'd guess Nvidia might do this if they can produce higher yields of the higher quality AD104 silicon at a later date (I'm assuming a Super release just means a refresh and replacement of the original card).

 

[Joxeon]

Aren't CUDA's different for Ampere and ADA? I thought ADA CUDA's were more efficient and each are roughly 1.5x the performance of the Ampere CUDA's? So a direct comparison isn't right

I don’t think so else a GPU like the 4070 would be at least 50% faster than a 3070 at the same clock speed

 

[g67575]

The thing about the RTX 3080 FE having the best value per core isn't a particularly good comparison, because so few people actually got one on launch (Nvidia never intended to sell very many of these). And the prices of aib models were pretty terrible up till now. As of the 4070 launch, there's a Zotac RTX 3080 selling at the MSRP price of £650.

The RTX 3070 FE had much better availability.

 

[SpellowHouse]

I think once the 4070 hit £499 it'll be a compelling buy. That's when i jump, no matter how long the wait

Depends what monitor you have, really. Or plan on having.
I have to say that I have two hi res monitors, so I wouldn't consider the 4070. Shame really, I might have bought a 5070 but if NVIDIA continue to limit the RAM in the way they are doing, then not even that will be an option.

 

[Sgt_Major]

Depends what monitor you have, really. Or plan on having.
I have to say that I have two hi res monitors, so I wouldn't consider the 4070. Shame really, I might have bought a 5070 but if NVIDIA continue to limit the RAM in the way they are doing, then not even that will be an option.

Don't worry, Nvidia's got your back, by the time games are chomping up 15-16Gbs ram on the regulars @1440p, they will release a 5070 Blackwell card with 16Gb ram and a 192 bit bus (if you're lucky), just when 20+Gb was last gen and now AMD giving you 24GB on mid/upper mid range cards. All for the low low price of £850.

Nvidia:The way you meant to be played.

 

[Jono8]

I think once the 4070 hit £499 it'll be a compelling buy. That's when i jump, no matter how long the wait

Same.

Good thing is, with these still in stock everywhere, it might be possible to get one for that price with cashback/discount codes from certain places etc at some point.

 

[Joxeon]

Don’t forget even at £500 it’s still 25% down on the performance level you got from a 3070.

 

[robgmun]

Don't worry, Nvidia's got your back, by the time games are chomping up 15-16Gbs ram on the regulars @1440p, they will release a 5070 Blackwell card with 16Gb ram and a 192 bit bus (if you're lucky), just when 20+Gb was last gen and now AMD giving you 24GB on mid/upper mid range cards. All for the low low price of £850.

Nvidia:The way you meant to be played.

The 5070 will most certainly have 16Gb, look at the boards when YouTubers like Gamers Nexus do their teardowns, there's clearly a space for two more memory modules, taking the total memory up to 16Gb. So there was a plan at some point to give the 4070 16Gb but they changed their minds later. So they're most likely going to give the 5070 16Gb as the next logical step.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Shoehorn in a 4070 16GB edition later on. The way your meant to be played!

 

[Purgatory]

Don’t forget even at £500 it’s still 25% down on the performance level you got from a 3070.

 

[JediFragger]

Shoehorn in a 4070 16GB edition later on. The way your meant to be played!

4070 Super incoming

 

[gpuerrilla]

This is (unfortunately) the way

 

[Journey]

This is (unfortunately) the way

If they follow the previous Super launch then it would end up costing less and be faster, and may indeed end up with more RAM this time. $499 16GB version ~15% faster than the RTX 3080, but not until August/September. Pretty sure it will be a 4070 Ti rebadged in some ways.

 

[Troezar]

4070 Super incoming

You watch, AMD announce a decent 7800XT and the same day Nvidia announce a 4070 Super to spoil the party. Love them or hate them Nvidia play to win.

 

[cola]

I just gave up and bought an Xbox series x yesterday, just got tierd of waiting for a reasonably priced GPU, if I thought AMD were going to come out with something that was a much better deal in the next few months id have maybe waited a bit more but I keep waiting and there's new games I wanted to play.

 

[robgmun]

If they follow the previous Super launch then it would end up costing less and be faster, and may indeed end up with more RAM this time. $499 16GB version ~15% faster than the RTX 3080, but not until August/September. Pretty sure it will be a 4070 Ti rebadged in some ways.

Then i'll be more than happy to wait until then. But i highly doubt it'll come in at 499. More likely they'll drop the current cards to 499 and introduce the super at 599

 

[JediFragger]

but not until August/September.

Maybe but that certainly won't be this calendar year!!!

 

[Rroff]

Don’t forget even at £500 it’s still 25% down on the performance level you got from a 3070.

Though the 4080 is a little higher gain over the average of previous jumps from last gen x80 to next gen x70 you have to go to the 4080 really to get anything like the generation on generation gain you'd expect in a x70 class - at over twice the price... in this day and age I expect things to be a little more expensive but that is just taking the mick but unfortunately people enable it by buying - and it isn't going to get any better while people enable it (sure there are some unfortunate realities if you need a GPU, etc. ).

 

[Journey]

Maybe but that certainly won't be this calendar year!!!

I think ultimately that would depend on how well sales are doing across the business for Nvidia, they have almost 2 full quarters to see what it sells like, and to also see if there is any form of competitive response in that time scale. Oct-Dec is the most important time so missing that would be foolish if there is some other option.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Yeah the 4080 would have been accepted with a small bump to FE price and upwards for AIB (£799>) but here we have £1199 and that means the rest of the stack suffered.