The 6800xt is hardly much cheaper and slightly slower, uses more power and is last gen (much poorer ray tracing etc)
At the current prices, the 4070 is more attractive than any of the similarly priced AMD cards in my opinion.
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RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?
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The 6800xt is hardly much cheaper and slightly slower, uses more power and is last gen (much poorer ray tracing etc)
At the current prices, the 4070 is more attractive than any of the similarly priced AMD cards in my opinion.
For the 6900XTs in stock the price is often the same or more than a 7900XT.
The 6950XT can be found cheaper than a 6900XT but only £100 less than a 7900XT.
US is different they seem to get the 6800XT and 6950XT at low enough price to be more compelling than just spending a bit more for the latest 7900XT in the UK.
The RTX 4070 does well in RT at 1080p, so I'd choose that card if I was interested in RT on a 1080p monitor:
www.techpowerup.com
There's a good boost in RT vs the RTX 3070 at this resolution.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Founders Edition Review
NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4070 launches today. In this review we're taking a look at the Founders Edition, which sells at the baseline MSRP of $600. NVIDIA's new FE is a beauty, and its dual-slot design is compact enough to fit into all cases. In terms of performance, the card can match RTX 3080...
There's a good boost in RT vs the RTX 3070 at this resolution.
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People running 1080p are unlikely to be buying £600 cards though.The RTX 4070 does well in RT at 1080p, so I'd choose that card if I was interested in RT on a 1080p monitor:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Founders Edition Review
NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4070 launches today. In this review we're taking a look at the Founders Edition, which sells at the baseline MSRP of $600. NVIDIA's new FE is a beauty, and its dual-slot design is compact enough to fit into all cases. In terms of performance, the card can match RTX 3080...
There's a good boost in RT vs the RTX 3070 at this resolution.
In theory, you should get good performance on a RTX 4070 in RT titles with DLSS performance mode enabled, with 4K display resolution set, because the internal resolution would be 1080p.
My RTX 3070 did struggle in some games with that, but it should be doable on the 4070.
My RTX 3070 did struggle in some games with that, but it should be doable on the 4070.
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I personally won't buy either. The RX6800XT will last longer because games will use more VRAM,especially those with even light RT and the consoles use RDNA2 so the baseline performance is going to be based on the same uarch. But it should be sold much cheaper in the UK being an older product - in the US it can be had for just over $500 for the cheapest models. It really needs to be £500 at the very least.But even if the RTX4070 has better RT performance,it lacks VRAM,so once the RTX5000 series comes out(or Nvidia refreshes the range with more VRAM),RT will start to have problems.
Honestly,unless both companies rejig their ranges,I think skipping this generation makes some sense.
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Nope, does fine, 3840*1800 (custom resolution for extra wideness) with RT overdrive + DLSS Q + FG, lands at around 90-100 fps.
I'm going to buy a cut down Navi31 graphics card, if they release one. It looks like they probably will.
AMDs RDNA 3 cards have actually been a similar price to equivalent RDNA2 cards (which were expensive on launch at the high end), so I think the card below the RX 7900 XT shouldn't be too expensive.
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The bigger issue the sub £500 range where it seems we are stagnating yet again. So it might take another generation for things to improve.
True but when comparing cost per frame we're talking about MSRP, while the 6800 XT is very close to the 4070 in terms of cost per frame we're talking about a two and a half year old card vs a newer card, all be it with slightly less RAM, with extra features.
I've been very close to buying a 6800 XT but even though it's come down in price recently it's nowhere near enough, £30-40 less than the cheapest 4070 for a 2 ½ year old card is silly, especially when its replacment is rumoured to be less than 2 months away.
Yup. The 6800xt needs to drop a lot more to be an attractive alternative really.
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Truth be told I'm surprised Nvidia priced the 4070 at 560 and they're actually available at MSRP considering the extortionate price of the 4070ti in excess of 800 for most SKUs I did expect the 4070 to be about £100 cheaper.
I still think the 6950xt was a better deal at £640 but it's no longer available for that price and the 6800xt isn't a bad choice it's just like others have said compared to US prices ours are still way higher than they should be.
I have money to burn and really need a new card I just can't justify any of these prices for either brand at the moment.
Hopefully the 7800xt will shake things up a little, but we really need the top of the stack on both sides to comedown several 100 to make them start to feel good value.
I don't really feel like we have a new generation of cards, just a continuation of last gen more performance more cost.
I still think the 6950xt was a better deal at £640 but it's no longer available for that price and the 6800xt isn't a bad choice it's just like others have said compared to US prices ours are still way higher than they should be.
I have money to burn and really need a new card I just can't justify any of these prices for either brand at the moment.
Hopefully the 7800xt will shake things up a little, but we really need the top of the stack on both sides to comedown several 100 to make them start to feel good value.
I don't really feel like we have a new generation of cards, just a continuation of last gen more performance more cost.
In terms of performance yes, but in terms of efficiency, the 40 series is genuinely considerably better than 30 series (and 20 series). A 4080 draws less power than a 3080 for example, it's 100W or more in power savings, runs quieter, runs cooler. Some will say you can undervolt a 3080, that's true, but then you lose a percentage of performance, even if it's 3-6fps, and you still don't get the low power draw of the 40 series.
So for me it would be knowing that now the 40 series and upcoming 50 series will be very efficient, and all it boils down to is the price, since the performance of all of them appear to be good for their class, just the pricing is all wrong which we know anyway.
So for me it would be knowing that now the 40 series and upcoming 50 series will be very efficient, and all it boils down to is the price, since the performance of all of them appear to be good for their class, just the pricing is all wrong which we know anyway.
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Exactly the direction that I predicted Nvidia would take when they first introduced DLSS- cutting down on hardware spec and native performance (for lower production costs and more profit), while preaching it to the market spinning upscaling/fake frames as some kind of Holy Grail feature...
If they did this to keep cards affordable for the consumers that's may be reasonable, but not when they are doubling down in artificially inflating the pricing of cards to ridiculous level.
So basically less for more
Games like control and cyberpunk seem to turn on some terrible "make it look like blurred mud" switch when you render 1080p native though, RT or not. Counter to any rational sense, DSR 1440p looks way better on a 1080p screen in those games beyond just fixing aliasing issues. So I'd probably use the grunt for that all things considered.The RTX 4070 does well in RT at 1080p, so I'd choose that card if I was interested in RT on a 1080p monitor:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Founders Edition Review
NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4070 launches today. In this review we're taking a look at the Founders Edition, which sells at the baseline MSRP of $600. NVIDIA's new FE is a beauty, and its dual-slot design is compact enough to fit into all cases. In terms of performance, the card can match RTX 3080...
There's a good boost in RT vs the RTX 3070 at this resolution.
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