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Don't forget the rainbow puke rgb. That doubles the fps! or is that just the cost....?
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RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?
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Don't forget the rainbow puke rgb. That doubles the fps! or is that just the cost....?
They won't if people keep buying "4070" cards for nigh on £600
Aside from the 4090 the entire stack is at the wrong price with arguably the wrong naming as well.
If NV wanted a $1,200 part it needed to be a further cut AD102 part with maybe 20GB of ram and probably called a 4080Ti.
The current 4080 is fine on AD103 but should be closer to $700.
The current 4070Ti should really be a 4070 and be closer to $550.
The current 4070 should be a 4060 for around $350.
Maybe NV will do a super refresh and these will be the 4060 Super will be basically the same as the 4070 but for $350-400, the 4070 Super will be a cut AD103 die with ~4070ti performance and 16GB of ram for the $500-550 mark, a 4080 Super can be a cut AD102 die with 20GB of ram at the $1,200 mark and the 4090Ti can slot in at the very top with a full AD102 die at maybe $2,000. 4090 would still exist and the 4080 can get a price cut to $700-800. NV did this with the 2000 series so not impossible IMO.
If NV wanted a $1,200 part it needed to be a further cut AD102 part with maybe 20GB of ram and probably called a 4080Ti.
The current 4080 is fine on AD103 but should be closer to $700.
The current 4070Ti should really be a 4070 and be closer to $550.
The current 4070 should be a 4060 for around $350.
Maybe NV will do a super refresh and these will be the 4060 Super will be basically the same as the 4070 but for $350-400, the 4070 Super will be a cut AD103 die with ~4070ti performance and 16GB of ram for the $500-550 mark, a 4080 Super can be a cut AD102 die with 20GB of ram at the $1,200 mark and the 4090Ti can slot in at the very top with a full AD102 die at maybe $2,000. 4090 would still exist and the 4080 can get a price cut to $700-800. NV did this with the 2000 series so not impossible IMO.
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Lets see what the Super refresh did for Turing.
$400 RTX2060 Super= $499~$599 RTX2070(slightly quicker)
$500 RTX2070 Super=$699~$799 RTX2080(slightly quicker)
AMD had nothing to really compete above the RTX2070 at that time(RX5700XT).When Turing launched,the FOMO crowd said not buying had no effect,AMD had no effect,etc so just buy! buy! buy! Then they ended up with egg! egg! egg! on their faces. Yet the same FOMO crowd have forgotten that.
Turing also happened after a mining boom,and Nvidia having overproduced Pascal(IIRC). Ada Lovelace happened after a mining boom,and Nvidia having overproduced Ampere.
Nvidia has doubled its inventory of unsold dGPUS and materials to $5.2 billion earlier this year. Nvidia has massively cut down on TSMC orders:
PCMR still thinks its a sellers market,so much so even AMD had to reduce Zen4 CPU prices,and rush out the X3D range. Intel CPU sales are also down,and they sell far more than AMD does.PC sales are down the drain. The demand is not there.
$400 RTX2060 Super= $499~$599 RTX2070(slightly quicker)
$500 RTX2070 Super=$699~$799 RTX2080(slightly quicker)
AMD had nothing to really compete above the RTX2070 at that time(RX5700XT).When Turing launched,the FOMO crowd said not buying had no effect,AMD had no effect,etc so just buy! buy! buy! Then they ended up with egg! egg! egg! on their faces. Yet the same FOMO crowd have forgotten that.
Turing also happened after a mining boom,and Nvidia having overproduced Pascal(IIRC). Ada Lovelace happened after a mining boom,and Nvidia having overproduced Ampere.
Nvidia has doubled its inventory of unsold dGPUS and materials to $5.2 billion earlier this year. Nvidia has massively cut down on TSMC orders:
PCMR still thinks its a sellers market,so much so even AMD had to reduce Zen4 CPU prices,and rush out the X3D range. Intel CPU sales are also down,and they sell far more than AMD does.PC sales are down the drain. The demand is not there.
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Then a year later,he will make another video on how the RX6800XT was the better choice because it had more VRAM,and then point back to some other comment he made to say he was correct!
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I watched the video,and you can see him covering his back:
Best High-End GPU of 2020, GeForce RTX 3080 10G vs. Radeon RX 6800 XT: 2023 Revisit
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At 845 seconds he says the 10GB framebuffer is "right on the edge" with current games. Then he says that at current pricing he would buy the RX6800XT over an RTX3080:
Best High-End GPU of 2020, GeForce RTX 3080 10G vs. Radeon RX 6800 XT: 2023 Revisit
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I'd give my left arm (I'm right handedThen a year later,he will make another video on how the RX6800XT was the better choice because it had more VRAM,and then point back to some other comment he made to say he was correct!
) for a crystal ball. You have the overpriced 4070, the "cheap" 6950XT, the stubbornly priced 3080 and the yet unreleased 7800XT. What a minefield... My head says wait but my inner RavenXXX2 says BUY, BUY, BUY! 
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Yeah he flip flops over this a lot. An older video him and Tim said paying over x and you should have a minimum of x vram. Most recent videos he's had a dig at vram amounts so only reason you would break this rule is if it was dirt cheap (which nvidia are certainly not).
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I saw this posted on TPU:
And priced to not sell, pushing everyone into either a 4070 or 4070ti
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