RTX 4070 12GB, is it Worth it?

[Troezar]

And priced to not sell, pushing everyone into either a 4070 or 4070ti

I'm betting £549, just slightly better than the outgoing 6950XT at £630ish. At that I might bite, I'd like a 7900XT but at £800+ I'm having a hard time justifying that.

 

[Sgt_Major]

The 4060 8GB is going to be a right **** show launch. Honestly think Nvidia are happy taking the L with ADA after having so much crypto ampere inventory left over to sell. Nvidia will be back on form with the next gen, 4090 performance for $699.

You must be smoking Jenen's "pipe" lol...

 

[JediFragger]

I'm betting £549

If it is that 'low' on launch then you can be damn sure it'll be a limited time 'AMD supported' price and will shoot up after a few days of sales. They love doing that dodgy ****.

 

[Lightnix]

I'm betting £549, just slightly better than the outgoing 6950XT at £630ish. At that I might bite, I'd like a 7900XT but at £800+ I'm having a hard time justifying that.

That will beat the 4070 at raster and have more memory (which is increasingly becoming something buyers are concerned about) so I'm betting £600, despite Nvidia having stronger value-adds.

 

[Troezar]

That will beat the 4070 at raster and have more memory (which is increasingly becoming something buyers are concerned about) so I'm betting £600, despite Nvidia having stronger value-adds.

You could be right, I'm an optimist

 

[oweneades]

I saw this posted on TPU:

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Jeez the 4060Ti will end up slightly below 25% of the overall AD102 core count...

 

[GhostDog1981]

I kind of think AMD deserves some credit for the simplicity of their line-ups. It's generally fairly predictable what you are going to get as a result.

I think the RX 7900 XT will fall to around £700, and the Navi31 card below it (still speculation at this point), could be sold for ~£600.

Navi32 will be the sub £500 more affordable segment, likely priced similarly to Navi22.

Navi33 is built on 6nm, so I don't think it will be much of an improvement vs Navi 23, nor cheaper.

Unlikely. 7900XT max will fall to £750 and stay there. 20gb vram 320bit bus and performance between a 4070ti/3090ti and 4080 and on par when overclocked with the 4080 at rasterisation. RT perf would be at 3090ti level.

 

[Author_25]

And priced to not sell, pushing everyone into either a 4070 or 4070ti

Have to wait and see, but I will use what little hope I have left that it is not.

 

[Troezar]

Unlikely. 7900XT max will fall to £750 and stay there. 20gb vram 320bit bus and performance between a 4070ti/3090ti and 4080 and on par when overclocked with the 4080 at rasterisation. RT perf would be at 3090ti level.

I might stretch to that, whatever they do they need to hurry up! Whether they do anything before Computex I doubt it. 7800XT announced there...?

 

[Author_25]

Unlikely. 7900XT max will fall to £750 and stay there. 20gb vram 320bit bus and performance between a 4070ti/3090ti and 4080 and on par when overclocked with the 4080 at rasterisation. RT perf would be at 3090ti level.

At £750 I would seriously consider a 7900XT, should get 5-6 years use, out of it, though would still wait on the 7800XT as it suits my needs more.

If the 4070 had had a 256bit bus and 16GB VRAM I would have forgiven the £600 price, and bought it.
If the 7800XT does release with a 256bit bus and 16GB VRAM, it has to be asked why could Nvidia not do so, especailly if the 7800XT comes out at the same, or lower price, than the 4070.

 

[Author_25]

I might stretch to that, whatever they do they need to hurry up! Whether they do anything before Computex I doubt it. 7800XT announced there...?

Computex is most likely and can show up Jenson in person, "look more VRAM and lower price".

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Jeez the 4060Ti will end up slightly below 25% of the overall AD102 core count...

I kept telling people on here,that the RTX4070 is really an RTX3060. Its similar to what a 60 series cards is relative to the top,and has the same memory configuration. I also pointed out that the AD104 is a third tier die,just like 106 series dGPUs.

The RTX4060TI is going to either use a severely cut down AD104 or the fourth tier AD106. The RTX3050 used either a severely cut down third tier GA106 or a fourth tier GA107. They both have the same memory configuration. The RTX3050 also increased the £150 price point of the 50 series to above £200.

People were half-jokingly saying we would get 50 series dGPUs above £300. Well here we are. All because of FOMO,which you would expect kids to have.

 

[GhostDog1981]

Buying a 12 or even! 16gb card now is a bit worrisome with the future of console ports. I’d always go for as much vram as possibly my budget allows and if needed push above it by £100.

 

[Author_25]

Buying a 12 or even! 16gb card now is a bit worrisome with the future of console ports. I’d always go for as much vram as possibly my budget allows and if needed push above it by £100.

Could it nbe part of cunning plan to make us all but 4090's or 7900XTX's with there 24GB VRAM as only way to "future proof".

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Could it nbe part of cunning plan to make us all but 4090's or 7900XTX's with there 24GB VRAM as only way to "future proof".

If there are console refreshes at the end of the year or early next year,it's going to make a lot of these dGPUs look even worse.

 

[Minusorange]

I saw this posted on TPU:

So does this mean the 4070 is more comparable to the xx60 series in previous generations but double the price ?

 

[gpuerrilla]

So does this mean the 4070 is more comparable to the xx60 series in previous generations but double the price ?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

So does this mean the 4070 is more comparable to the xx60 series in previous generations but double the price ?

Yes. Basically instead of meeting consumers halfway with the jump to TSMC 4N 5NM,Nvidia have decided to do Turing V1 on steroids. Turing V1 was also after a mining boom when Nvidia had lots of older generation dGPUs to clear and dGPU prices went silly.

 

[rare]

The 4070 is essentially a 4060 or Ti in anything but name.

At this rate even a A770 16GB is going to be better than a 4060 and cheaper, with more vram.

 

[Lightnix]

So does this mean the 4070 is more comparable to the xx60 series in previous generations but double the price ?

Yep.