Russell Brand.

This thread reminds me of Athene all over again.....

The dude was just trying to raise money for charity and had honourable intentions and all people did was just spew vile venom and hatred towards him......

Nothing more than an unhappy and unfulfilled individual spreading his toxicity.

They always say you see in others that which is most in yourself.

Maybe some of you in brands position would seek to further your own career and had secret financial motives because you are a little troll in real life so that is possibly why some of you cannot accept maybe.... just maybe Russell brand does actually care and just is passionate about some things.

You mentally can't comprehend someone in his position doing the things he does without shady motives.
 
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CREATIVE!11 said:
This thread reminds me of Athene all over again.....

The dude was just trying to raise money for charity and had honourable intentions and all people did was just spew vile venom and hatred towards him......
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in the UK you can only build someone up or knock them down.

its either love or hate. the level of intellect with some people is so low many people find it hard to not take anything other than a black and white view on everything.

Either that or they are sat smoking a bowl at home listening to Dre ..
 
Glaucus said:
Make some sort of sense. Nothing more nothing less. Don't care if he makes money out of it, all politicians do.
Other than brining his own brand, he has literally done nothing. No new subjects that haven't been debated to death for years. No plans on how to fox it. In fact his only plans would actually make his ideas less likely.
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So really hes just similar to current politicians. They have been fighting the same topics of Health and Immigration for years themselves. Nothing seems to change there. Infact it just seems to worsen.

The idea behind not voting is just the fact that there is no one to vote for that actually offers a change. I've never voted myself and Im 30, because regardless of who is in power, the general opinion is that they are crap anyway. Every PM I remember in the last 2 decades have all been equally useless.

Even if hes resurrecting topics that have been done to death, at least hes keeping them in peoples minds. Which isnt a bad thing surely.
 
phill1978 said:
in the UK you can only build someone up or knock them down.

its either love or hate. the level of intellect with some people is so low many people find it hard to not take anything other than a black and white view on everything.

Either that or they are sat smoking a bowl at home listening to Dre ..
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Or more likely people only talk about people they like/dislike. And the vast majority of people they couldn't careless about and so never talk about.
 
FinglisHobbit said:
So really hes just similar to current politicians. They have been fighting the same topics of Health and Immigration for years themselves. Nothing seems to change there. Infact it just seems to worsen.

The idea behind not voting is just the fact that there is no one to vote for that actually offers a change. I've never voted myself and Im 30, because regardless of who is in power, the general opinion is that they are crap anyway. Every PM I remember in the last 2 decades have all been equally useless.

Even if hes resurrecting topics that have been done to death, at least hes keeping them in peoples minds. Which isnt a bad thing surely.
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This is democracy for you. It's why everything is down the middle.
It all relays in votes and short term solutions. Public doesn't agree with each other so you get the middle. That democracy for you. Until you start to reduce democracy and start adding in rules that have to follow scientific methodology then it will always be like this, changing party isn't going to save anything.

And not voting is silly, it achieves nothing and you trying to tell me, you seem them all equally able to run the country? There's not a single policy you want that all other parties don't have? It's voting for the least offensive party, rather than for what you actually want. again because what you actually want, few others in the country will want.
 
Glaucus said:
Or more likely people only talk about people they like/dislike. And the vast majority of people they couldn't careless about and so never talk about.
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true, but the 'tone' of peoples comments or plain out and out swearing and disgust is more than a thumbs up or a thumbs down kind of approach. I suppose a lot of it is to do with the way the newspapers stir up fear or hate for more sales.. its the click bait approach.


Basically Brand is a re-run of many popularist's that have come and gone before really, his role is to awaken politicians from their slumber. He is basically just a warning beacon that lots of people are really not happy.
 
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Rossi~ said:
I know he's fighting for the right team, but I just can't stand the twazzock.
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He is fighting for himself and only himself. Only incredibly stupid people are taken in by his recent "revolution".

He is very clever....at manipulating people and making a lot of money for himself.
 
Shouts and uses big words to try and add weight to whatever it is he is rambling on about.

Hypocritical bore bag who after all said and done doesn't really give a monkey about what he is rambling on about so long as it gains him popular edgy cool status and hot women.

Can't blame him much really :p
 
drunkenmaster said:
He's not, everything he gets involved in is already in the public attention. The recent rent issue and protest had NOTHING to do with Brand. Brand saw a popular cause and decided to jump in front of it, if anything he took coverage away from the issue and all the news was about his interview rather than about the issue.

He's like many other people, Bono, Geldof, whoever else, a cause exists, it gets attention, they jump to the front of the cause pretending to be a champion of it, take away attention from said cause onto themselves. They get loads of attention, book/album/ticket sales go through the roof, the cause is pretty much ignored and become about those individuals, these people are worse than politicians. They are the worst type of people having absolutely no morals or care. It's easy to read a paper see what the latest cause of the people is then turn up and take the attention while being seen as the champion of the people when in actual fact doing nothing at all for the cause.

Brand doesn't have views, he's a populist, nothing more or less, we never hear what he is for BEFORE an issue becomes the popularly held view of the people. He always jumps on a cause as it gets big and gets lots of media attention. Media attention whores like him just follow the attention then jump in between the cause and the camera for his own personal gain.

He has a large vocab and nothing else, he has no ideas, when he talks on the subject matter he comes up empty, when asked how to fix something or how something could be made better he rambles on like a retarded idiot or simply lashes out at the person asking the question. The entire problem with politics is people like him, people with no idea who want the power, the attention but hasn't got a clue how to make things better. Politicians who have no long term plan how to make things better just jump in front of whatever is popular at the time with no coherent plan of how to improve things but act to appease the public masses even if said action makes things much worse in the long term. Brand is like that, jump on a cause, no ideas, follows the media attention, gets upset when called out on having no clue what he's talking about.
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Also this.
 
People keep talking about all the change Russell Brand has made...

Can someone please tell me what exactly has changed because of Russell Brand?

Just because you was unaware of an issue before Brand went harping on about it doesn't mean everyone was...
 
He just says a load of rubbish that sounds intelligent and capitalises on the anti-establishment zeitgeist. Look further and you'll realise it's all a sham to make him more money.
 
John40 said:
What utter tripe.
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haha, I love this thread as much as it scares me.

I don't think Brand is stupid, he knows exactly what he is doing, he has taken a leaf out of Sacha Baron Cohen's book and taken on a Borat like character in the guise of a crusading champagne socialist, regurgitating sound bites about social justice to rouse the rabble. What is great about watching it in motion is that as with Borat, the people taking part can't even see the part they are playing in his act.
 
balky12 said:
People keep talking about all the change Russell Brand has made...

Can someone please tell me what exactly has changed because of Russell Brand?

Just because you was unaware of an issue before Brand went harping on about it doesn't mean everyone was...
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Who said he made change? In fact most posts here are people saying he talks but changes nothing?
 
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