Russell Brand.

The people about conspiracy theorists want to lock the guy who without due process, just because they don't like him personally.

The old carrot and stick as worked again.
 
You do realise 16 is the age of consent. Why is it even being brought up? They must've really been scraping the barrel with this one.

No one said it was illegal but people in their 30s shouldn't be sleeping with 16 year olds. They are still legally a child. And if her account is to be believed he wanted her to play up on being a child. Its creepy as ****.
 
Yeah but the thing is it was the 90s and society was different then. Society evolves and now that behaviour isn't acceptable. In the 80s Bill Wyman was dating the 13 year old Mandy Smith, it became public when she was 15 and although it get lots of press attention he wasn't vilified like he should have been. If that happened now he'd be looking at spending some time in jail and a life of being on the sex offenders register.
My point was that, I'll use your example, would be all those people working around Bill Wyman now claiming they didn't know anything about it.
 
My point was that, I'll use your example, would be all those people working around Bill Wyman now claiming they didn't know anything about it.
A natural reflex isn't it?

The whole industry is rotten and largely that is a reflection of society itself either not caring, only caring when it's the 'other side' or wanting to deflect from their own vain, sinful behaviour by pretending they're angels calling out the bad uns.
 
I stopped quite a while back, when we were in the middle of the Trump election stuff, as well as Brexit. I'm sure there are still vestiges of honesty in the industry but given how much absolute nonsense there is, I treat it all as sensationalist guff.

One of my favourite examples is when there was a fire at Disneyland in the States. The press were selling the story with people being "terrified" and "running away in terror, screaming".

Then someone posted this video which basically shows the visitors just laughing at the thing:

I see this every day from Google sending me news captions. Like today saying" massive thunderstorms to hit the UK or heatwave to smash the UK with maps showing huge deep red blotches over the UK.
When in the normal world it's just a little thunderstorm if you get one and the heatwave is just warm to hot weather which is normal. Nothing that warrants huge deep red blotches over the UK like it's the end of the world.
 
I see this every day from Google sending me news captions. Like today saying" massive thunderstorms to hit the UK or heatwave to smash the UK with maps showing huge deep red blotches over the UK.
When in the normal world it's just a little thunderstorm if you get one and the heatwave is just warm to hot weather which is normal. Nothing that warrants huge deep red blotches over the UK like it's the end of the world.
Well of course they would because it's probably the likes of the Express/Star or whatever other rag has these hyperbolic headlines and sadly the dumbest people in existence huff that **** like sugar. Engagement = Ad revenue = Google execs get their 6th yacht.
 
Last edited:
My point was that, I'll use your example, would be all those people working around Bill Wyman now claiming they didn't know anything about it.

But people don't want others to think they saw something and either found it acceptable or that they just did nothing. Back then many in society thought it was acceptable for a rock and roll star to be having sex with a minor as she looked much older than she was. The Sun was printing pics of her looking all sexy as a 15 year old. Others I'm sure didn't think it was acceptable but kept their mouths shut for fear of losing their jobs etc. Why put yourself in the spotlight by making any comment at all now? If you say you thought it was ok you'll be vilified. If you said you thought it wasn't and said nothing you'll be vilified.
 
In the 80s Bill Wyman was dating the 13 year old Mandy Smith, it became public when she was 15 and although it got lots of press attention he wasn't vilified like he should have been.
What a weird family lol

In 1993, Wyman's son Stephen Wyman married Patsy Smith, the 46-year-old mother of Bill's ex-wife Mandy Smith. Stephen was 30 years old at the time. Therefore, Bill became the father-in-law of his ex-mother-in-law as well as the stepgrandfather of his former wife
 
But people don't want others to think they saw something and either found it acceptable or that they just did nothing. Back then many in society thought it was acceptable for a rock and roll star to be having sex with a minor as she looked much older than she was. The Sun was printing pics of her looking all sexy as a 15 year old. Others I'm sure didn't think it was acceptable but kept their mouths shut for fear of losing their jobs etc. Why put yourself in the spotlight by making any comment at all now? If you say you thought it was ok you'll be vilified. If you said you thought it wasn't and said nothing you'll be vilified.
I agree. So why have channel 4 put themselves in the spotlight?

I'm sure I've seen a message from channel 4 that they are going to investigate these matters.. the people laughing it off "boys will be boys" (that phrase always annoyed me, especially when women said it) are going to be exposed, at least internally.

C4 brought Brand in to the industry. We know he was high on drugs presenting programmes for MTV. He's admitted that himself. I seem to remember he was taken off big brothers little brother, on channel 4 suddenly. But it was all quickly brushed over and moved on.


Brand high as a kite, and being inappropriate. Yet C4 and MTV had no idea.. allegedly.

They turned a blind eye because he didn't have any opinions of worth. He was a loud mouth druggie attacking the right wing. Anyone remember "Nazi Boy"? When he was giving the right wing "fash" a verbal beating nobody minded.

I suspect if he hadn't started doing his videos nobody would have brought anything up.
 
How many people here were old enough to be watching channel 4 in the 90s, and the original MTV channel? When Brand was on there?

They all knew what he was like back then but he was just a very naughty boy. Now suddenly those people who give him a pass previously are acting shocked now.

He was literally mauling and flirting with women while he was on the shows.

It was all a big joke back then to these tv executives, the same people faking being shocked now. This is from 2009;


Is there something in this clip that I'm not seeing? Man flirts with women? Is this no longer acceptable?
 
I agree. So why have channel 4 put themselves in the spotlight?

I'm sure I've seen a message from channel 4 that they are going to investigate these matters.. the people laughing it off "boys will be boys" (that phrase always annoyed me, especially when women said it) are going to be exposed, at least internally.

C4 brought Brand in to the industry. We know he was high on drugs presenting programmes for MTV. He's admitted that himself. I seem to remember he was taken off big brothers little brother, on channel 4 suddenly. But it was all quickly brushed over and moved on.


Brand high as a kite, and being inappropriate. Yet C4 and MTV had no idea.. allegedly.

They turned a blind eye because he didn't have any opinions of worth. He was a loud mouth druggie attacking the right wing. Anyone remember "Nazi Boy"? When he was giving the right wing "fash" a verbal beating nobody minded.

I suspect if he hadn't started doing his videos nobody would have brought anything up.

Different leadership at the channel maybe and none will have to answer for what might have happened while others were in charge. Shouldn't we be pleased that a company is prepared to do this?
 
No one said it was illegal but people in their 30s shouldn't be sleeping with 16 year olds. They are still legally a child. And if her account is to be believed he wanted her to play up on being a child. Its creepy as ****.
Tbh the consent lot are probably on a list somewhere, anyone who is 30 and sniffing around teenagers is a creep. Period.
 
Back
Top Bottom