Russell Brand.

[Hades]

And if the accusations are to be believed asking her to act like a child.

Did he ask her to act like a child, or when they had a disagreement he said she was acting like a child? All we know at this point is that she says he referred to her as "the child". It's easy to assume the worst but we don't know what was actually said. Or do we?

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

Did he ask her to act like a child, or when they had a disagreement he said she was acting like a child? All we know at this point is that she says he referred to her as "the child". It's easy to assume the worst but we don't know what was actually said. Or do we?

Did you read the story? Its linked in the thread. In it she says he wanted her to act like a child and asked her to read Lolita.

 

[C Kent]

No one is saying he should be prosecuted for dating a 16 year old. Also there is a HUGE difference between asking a 17 year old online for sexy pics and actually having sex with a 16 year old. And if the accusations are to be believed asking her to act like a child. Schofield is clearly a creep, so is this guy.

You are getting confused between schofield and edwards, schofield had an affair wth the fella he knew from 11 or so and got a job working with him. Edwards was the picture guy.

 

[Hades]

Did you read the story? Its linked in the thread. In it she says he wanted her to act like a child and asked her to read Lolita.

That's why I asked at the end "or do we?"

No I haven't read all 69 pages of this thread. I was basing my question on what the BBC are reporting:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66835997

What are the allegations?​

Several women have made allegations against Brand as part of the investigation by the Sunday Times, the Times and Channel 4’s Dispatches:

• One woman alleges that Brand raped her against a wall in his Los Angeles home. She was treated at a rape crisis centre on the same day. The Times says it has seen medical records to support this
• A second woman alleges that Brand assaulted her in the UK when he was in his early 30s and she was 16 and still at school. She alleges he referred to her as "the child" during an emotionally abusive and controlling relationship
• A third woman claims that Brand sexually assaulted her while she worked with him in Los Angeles, and that he threatened to take legal action if she told anyone else about her allegation
• The fourth woman alleged being sexually assaulted by Brand and him being physically and emotionally abusive towards her

 

[One More Solo]

Would also be interested to know what people think about the "groupies" of yesteryear (esp in the 70s). We know it happened. We know there was a power imbalance, but we also know these teens were throwing themselves at their idols. And that it was common. Very common.

Clearly it's taboo now, but it's really not so long ago that it absolutely wasn't.

I'm not sure how many of those teens went on to allege sexual assualt against the bands involved.

You should probably watch the documentary Look Away - you are coming over as very ill-informed here.

 

[Freefaller]

The only thing I like about him is that he has a purple belt in BJJ. Other than that he's just very odd and a bit of a narcissist.

 

[Ayahuasca]

The only thing I like about him is that he has a purple belt in BJJ.

I wonder if he loves to see their mascara run when he's choking someone.

 

[Richie]

Because although 16 is the age of consent they are legally still children.

Yeah I find it a little of an anomaly because this means that the UK has child soldiers if we count adults as 18+

 

[ebilcake]

Trial by media and anonymous women making allegations about something that apparently happened years ago..... Pretty sure I've seen this one before somewhere.

 

[FoxEye]

You should probably watch the documentary Look Away - you are coming over as very ill-informed here.

I just worded it badly. I know several have brought claims in recent years for historical stuff. But at the time, it was normalised.

e: But the point is, were all those girls flinging themselves at their 70s rock icons entirely ignorant of what they were doing? The 16 and 17 year olds (yes there were younger girls than that).

 

[Zatoichi.uK]

Seems like a hatchet job. Will wait for evidence.

 

[GGizmo]

The age of consent debate should be in another thread. It's confusing the subject.

 

[robgmun]

I am quite in favour of a change of law so that anyone who is 16 or 17 can only consent to sex with someone up to two years older than themselves. We can debate the actual ages and gaps but I think something like this would be sensible.

I think that's how it works in Japan. The age of consent might be as low as 14, but only if the other party is a similar age. I think the other person can be arrested if he's over 18 or something. I'll have to check

 

[Freakbro]

lol @robgmun

The post I have quoted of yours clearly shows you arguing for "innocent until proven guilty" (and no that's nothing to do with Tate, that was a separate comment and post - do keep up) and that "no smoke without fire" leads to an Orwellian society - except of course when you don't like the person accused, then immediate assumptions of guilt - as you have clearly done ITT - are fine.

So being a hypocrite is a perfectly accurate description of your posting.

 

[FoxEye]

The age of consent debate should be in another thread. It's confusing the subject.

Why? He's partly/mostly in trouble for going after 16 year olds...

 

[robgmun]

lol @robgmun

The post I have quoted of yours clearly shows you arguing for "innocent until proven guilty" (and no that's nothing to do with Tate, that was a separate comment and post - do keep up) and that "no smoke without fire" leads to an Orwellian society - except of course when you don't like the person accused, then immediate assumptions of guilt - as you have clearly done ITT - are fine.

So being a hypocrite is a perfectly accurate description of your posting.

So how does it feel to be agreeing with Tate, Musk and a slew of other right-wing commentators?

 

[Freakbro]

So how does it feel to be agreeing with Tate, Musk and a slew of other right-wing commentators?

If I had, it would almost be like not every opinion is based on a persons political outlook? That one might be a bit complex for you to understand though

But please, show me where have I posted an opinion on Brands innocence or guilt to agree with anyone?

 

[Roar87]

She says that Brand's YouTube channel allows him to talk about conspiracy theories and frame the allegations in those terms.

"We are all looking back at the BBC and the agency that advises him and Channel 4. Russell Brand still has a platform on YouTube, he has 6.6 million followers, which is 100% owned by Google.

The real goal of the accusations slowly being unmasked

 

[200sols]

Why? He's partly/mostly in trouble for going after 16 year olds...

Is that a crime? People bringing their moral views into this now?

The alleged crime here is rape and the age of some of his sexual encounters should not cloud their views on him.

 

[Tykey]

If he's raped someone as has been claimed then he deserves to rot in jail. Will the accuser file a police complaint? Will the police act on it? With the % of rape complaints and trials (if they ever get to trial which many don't) resulting in conviction being so low it's (imo) understandable why some don't want to go to the police about it. So should the alleged victim not make their allegations public if no crime has been reported? I dunno tbh. How do we know she didn't go to the police but they acted no further?