Russian airliner missing over Egypt

Damien. · 1 Nov 2015 at 17:30

RIP to all the people on board.

Seems to be a massive air disaster in the news almost monthly these days.

Im no expert but the video on daily mail definitely looks like some sort of explosion.

I remain speculative until officials release the real cause. As Leon said though, if it was an attack Russia will almost definitely retaliate with force on another level.

[TW]Fox · 1 Nov 2015 at 17:32

Damien. said:
Seems to be a massive air disaster in the news almost monthly these days.

Why do people say this? There has been only one other 'massive air disaster' on this scale this year.

mattyprice4004 · 1 Nov 2015 at 17:47

I've always thought this looked like a structural failure causing explosive decompression - we'll probably find out soon.
Obviously I'm no expert, but it's happened at full cabin pressure and rather quickly. Other disasters of this nature have been caused by the same.

koolpc · 1 Nov 2015 at 17:48

Lets hope that any information gleaned is not kept 'secret'. I can see Russia hiding things if it suits them.

DJMK4 · 1 Nov 2015 at 17:50

I doubt they would be allowed to hide things. Its not them who would be investigating anyway. Only thing they may have any worry about is safety checks, records, service etc if it turns out this isn't foul play

Hitman_Leon · 1 Nov 2015 at 17:53

[TW]Fox;28756431 said:
Why do people say this? There has been only one other 'massive air disaster' on this scale this year.

The seemingly endless over-reporting of past air crashes, conclusions from investigations of past air crashes, press sensationalism over such things, creating a false impression to some?

Third Opinion · 1 Nov 2015 at 19:09

When lots of people die at once it is common for the press to jump on it.

Aircraft carry lots of people, usually over a hundred so it is always going to make headlines when they crash with total loss of life.

Iraklis · 1 Nov 2015 at 19:19

if ISIS is indeed behind this, response will be brutal..

Jokester · 1 Nov 2015 at 22:04

Footage from the air shows the tail completely missing it seems from just behind where the wings meet the fuselage.

Caged · 1 Nov 2015 at 22:30

It had struck the ground when landing before, I hope a dodgy repair hasn't led to this:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20011116-0

itchy · 1 Nov 2015 at 22:37

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-224-emerges-jet-abort-three-months-ago.html

Bomb/ missile or catastrophic failure.

RIP..............

Firestar_3x · 1 Nov 2015 at 22:47

Caged said:
It had struck the ground when landing before, I hope a dodgy repair hasn't led to this:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20011116-0

Wouldn't be the first time a bad repair after a ground strike has cause structural failure later down the line.

Caged · 1 Nov 2015 at 22:50

itchy said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-224-emerges-jet-abort-three-months-ago.html

Bomb/ missile or catastrophic failure.

RIP..............

Is the Daily Mail trying to do a 'sidebar of shame' with photos of the victims? Were they only sent bikini photos of some of them?

Caged · 1 Nov 2015 at 23:24

Did you have a point buried in there somewhere?

itchy · 1 Nov 2015 at 23:31

Caged said:
Did you have a point buried in there somewhere?

People died and it was tragic. No point to be made.

Caged · 1 Nov 2015 at 23:56

I just assumed that you had an issue with what I posted, I'm interested to hear what it might be.

Boycey0211 · 2 Nov 2015 at 00:03

Caged said:
I just assumed that you had an issue with what I posted, I'm interested to hear what it might be.

Yeah he's misread a DM article yet again, and taken 'it could have been a bomb' as 'its likely to be a bomb'.

I mean bomb/missile or catastrophic failure doesn't exactly leave a lot else does it....

The_Abyss · 2 Nov 2015 at 06:34

Caged said:
Is the Daily Mail trying to do a 'sidebar of shame' with photos of the victims? Were they only sent bikini photos of some of them?

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice that. Daily Mail is consistently shameful.

Cosimo · 2 Nov 2015 at 07:14

Jokester said:
Footage from the air shows the tail completely missing it seems from just behind where the wings meet the fuselage.

Split in two (maybe):

A security officer at the scene told the Reuters news agency that the plane was split in two, "a small part of the tail end that burned and a larger part that crashed into a rock".

Tefal · 2 Nov 2015 at 07:17

Well an islamic terror group has claimed responsibility.

Given its an airbus a bombing/missile would probably be better for us than it being a dodgy Russian repair.

RIP to those lost.

And the "aviation expert" they have on the news is awful.