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Ryzen "2" ?

opethdisciple said:
Cool. That's good to know.

There have been new BIOS's in the last few days for the CH6 and the CH7 so hoping the Prime-Pro gets one soon too.
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Keeping eyes peeled for one for the Strix F-gaming. Usually runs same version as others in the range, but nothing yet... Might try a rollback to 4008. On 4011 at present, and it's been deep joy since last Windows update... 2400MHz or highway... :(
 
jigger said:
I think AMD said work was well under way and they had a yearly release plan. That should be about 10 months until we get the next CPU's.
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Which is good, but I'm literally being made angry every day by my current kit :/ (Which is my fault for not enough research, admittedly. I made a bad choice of motherboard and overestimated first gen Ryzen's ability to actually stick to it's XFR clocks.)
 
chroniclard said:
What are you actually having trouble with :)?
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I mean, there's the unfixable board layout; m.2 behind the GPU slot. It idles at 69 degrees during gaming in this weather, and throttles at 70. Soon as it hits a big loading spike, it'll tip over. Not what I wanted out of a 960 Pro at all :(

Then there's the awful bios... Memory is stuck just below 3000; it used to be higher on a previous bios, but last flash got it into a 30 minute boot loop. Now it claims to be the latest version, but doesn't have any of the new features it should have and I suspect if I try again it may just brick itself and die altogether. On top of that, it has savage overvolting if I touch the multiplier (like 1.55-1.6 vcore!), which is probably to "compensate" for it's lack of LLC. What sort of motherboard doesn't have LLC?? Either way it means zero overclocking for me.

On top of that the VRMs and VRM cooling are a joke, and this 1600X at stock while gaming is pushing 85 degrees on them. The SoC mosfets don't even have a heatsink on them :(

And I should have found out all of this before I bought it. My bad, and now I'm paying the price for my ignorance :( The months since have taught me a lot about how to identify a quality motherboard though, so at least it was a learning experience :p

So the board must be replaced, and it's making me consider replacing the CPU at the same time.

Regarding performance, I'm unfortunately that fringe case person who is always CPU limited even with a mediocre GPU. I like things like Kerbal Space Program (single thread), Stellaris (mostly single thread) and Cities Skylines (eats every available thread but gets capped by 1 heavy one). Whether it's the board or the CPU I'm unsure, but my 1600X is reluctant to XFR. It will touch 4.09 occasionally, but it seems to be little blips that show up in HWMonitor only. Pretty much any time I look it's sitting 3.67 with what I would have considered a single thread load.

Hence I'm now on the brink of going 8700K/8086K for a year or so. Moving from 3.7 to 5.0 would likely be more meaningful than gaining 2 cores with 4.2 boost clocks.

If Ryzen 3000 was sounding like it would deliver big clocks (or some IPC jumps) then I'd be willing to swap the board to something like a CH7H to solve the current thermal issues, see if it solved the memory speed, and feel happy that a next gen CPU would sit in it. But if we have no idea, then I've no real reason to wait and might as well get it done.
 
DoneADougalOnSofa said:
Keeping eyes peeled for one for the Strix F-gaming. Usually runs same version as others in the range, but nothing yet... Might try a rollback to 4008. On 4011 at present, and it's been deep joy since last Windows update... 2400MHz or highway... :(
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Really? You're saying you can't get your TeamGroup 3200MHz higher than 2400MHz?

Your Strix F-gaming is an x370 or x470?
 
chroniclard said:
sounds like a 8700K would be a better bet at this point in time, Ryzen 2(or whatever its called) will be a year.
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Lol, yeah, sorry for the WoT, but that's my conclusion too :) Which makes me feel a bit sad, but... not as sad as when my drive throttles while playing Ark Survival. And just look at all the boards with identical slot placement! :(

Knowing my luck Ryzen 3000 will come out with like 5.5ghz base clock and I'll be buying yet another set of kit :P (But that's a good thing really, so... fingers crossed.)
 
So it looks like I got extremely lucky and got my 2700x build up and running without any hitches at all. I got 3200mhz on the Hynix chips I bought straight away (albeit it defaulted to looser timings that I haven't even worked on changing yet but will do later) and it's been flawless in all benchmarks, stress tests and real world use.

The only other thing I need to have a look at is attempting a slight undervolt at some point since I'm not overclocking (stock cooler).
 
opethdisciple said:
Really? You're saying you can't get your TeamGroup 3200MHz higher than 2400MHz?

Your Strix F-gaming is an x370 or x470?
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I could, and I did. Until the latest Windows update, which apparently caused a few people some problems...
It didn't put a foot wrong at 3200 before that.

Yeah, it's an X470 board. Yet to have a tinker with it, but it's on Auto at the moment- was getting BSODs on any DOCP setting. Guess I need to go manual timings.
 
I have a 2700x and cannot get above 2800mhz on my team group 3200 ram, nothing i do works, OV or loosen timings, the only thing i havent tried like someone above states is to roll back the bios , but for the gigabyte x470 aorus ultra gaming board, there is only the one i am on (latest) and the last one, thats it and im pretty sure i couldnt get 3200 to work when i first got the build running.

Any help is much appreciated.
 
Oh dear. That's the stuff I bought first off.
There are currently two types of DDR4 ram- Hynix and Samsung.
Ryzen doesn't seem to like Hynix ram. At all.

If it marked c14, it's Samsung. That stuff is c16 Hynix. I struggled to run it at anything over 2133, and it wasn't stable then either.
I had to bite the bullet and get the 8pack c14 kit. That dropped in at 3200 without a problem (well, until the last windows update, but I'm sure that's a temporary hiccup).

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...
 
Illuminist said:
I checked with Thaiphoon ram checker and it is samsung b-die according to that, can you link me to one that will definately work if i was to RMA these?
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All 8 Pack RAM is guaranteed Samsung B Die and will operate with Ryzen at 3200MHz in pretty much any mainboard, though of course made easier with better quality boards.


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Illuminist said:
I checked with Thaiphoon ram checker and it is samsung b-die according to that, can you link me to one that will definately work if i was to RMA these?
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I think that RAM checker is incorrect. This thread contains quite a few ram-related issues, and they're almost all to do with c16 chips- and the stuff you have is it. I had massive issues and had to buy new- in fact I bought the stuff Gibbo posted above. No problems whatsoever. Aside from, as I say, a Windows update which seems to have caused a few of us some headaches...
 
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