Ryzen "2" ?

4K8KW10 · 8 May 2018 at 19:07

orbitalwalsh said:
Depends on the programs , worth noting your min FPS and average FPS is gaming . Found with Intel that's what played a key part. Also friends CAD rendering with V Ray - CPU only, 3200 8 Pack ram running at 3466hz shaved 6 hours of 5 day render .. for him that's a lot. Specially when that render use to take 2 weeks on his 2nd gen i7 laptop! Haha

Wow

This isn't that funny. Tell them they need a proper many-core work station for these tasks.

orbitalwalsh · 8 May 2018 at 19:16

4K8KW10 said:
Wow This isn't that funny. Tell them they need a proper many-core work station for these tasks.

Couldn't afford Thread Ripper at the time , meant dropping down from 1080 11gbps to 1070 ( before 70ti) and 60% of work was GPU rendering

4K8KW10 · 8 May 2018 at 20:03

orbitalwalsh said:
Couldn't afford...

The bank can always help with financing - especially when it is as important as work tasks. It is really embarrassing and frustrating to know how much time they waste and probably someone is waiting meanwhile...

Zeed · 9 May 2018 at 21:48

After finding out limits of my CPU and memory started playing around with PE3 overclock and thats what i got stable. All cores 4.256 and XFR boost 4.462. Gives 185-186 ST score in CB15

SupraWez · 9 May 2018 at 21:52

Very nice

chroniclard · 9 May 2018 at 22:02

Them volts tho! Had similar results but wasnt sure about the voltage, so dropped back a fair bit.

eddiew · 9 May 2018 at 22:36

Ryzen volts always look unreasonable... AMD keep telling us they're fine. I guess we'll start to find out in another year or two if the first gen chips start dying

Zeed · 9 May 2018 at 23:50

Yup sold my 1700x and c6h yesterday. This needs to last till zen 3 so another year. But in general zen 1 survived 1 year of constant 100%load 24/7. So normal users will be fine for warranty period.

Considering my old 2500k os still working on constant high voltage and 5ghz so many years. Cpus seem to last and last if ya keep them cool

Zeed · 10 May 2018 at 08:56

was benching b4 work recorded this small clip to show ya how this XFR2 PE3 actually works in single thread load

opethdisciple · 10 May 2018 at 09:59

Zeed said:
was benching b4 work recorded this small clip to show ya how this XFR2 PE3 actually works in single thread load

PE3? The article I read spoke about using PE2 as it was within AMD specs and anything above was beyond specification.

"Performance Enhancer is a bit more convoluted. There are settings for Auto, Default, Level 1, Level 2, Level 3 (OC), and Level 4 (OC). Levels 1 and 2 are using rules sets specified by AMD as to how Precision Boost 2 is supposed to work. Levels 3 and 4 are actually overclocked settings as noted. For our testing here, we have used Level 2 which is part of AMD's Precision Boost 2 specification. Quite frankly, we did not touch Level 1 as it is supposed to be a "lesser" BP2 setting in that Level 2 allows a slightly higher TDP value. Levels 3 and 4 are technically overclocking in that these profiles go above and beyond TDP and clock settings. Level 3 as you will see, requires even better cooling than what we have used here with our XSPC custom cooling loop."

Anyway.... is it as easy as that? You just set the settings in the bios and boom it works?

Whats your multicore boost speeds?

And why did you stop at PE3 and not try PE4?

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To say I'm tempted to upgrade from a Prime Pro x370 to a CH7 x470 is true.

Worth it?

I'd like to take advantage of this Performance Enhancer and I'm sure my ram woes will be fixed with a better mobo. Might even be able to overclock the damn thing. So far my 8 Pack ram has failed miserably on my x370 board. I've sent it back as faulty. Wont even run at DOCP with out freezing.

HeX · 10 May 2018 at 10:23

opethdisciple said:
I'd like to take advantage of this Performance Enhancer and I'm sure my ram woes will be fixed with a better mobo. Might even be able to overclock the damn thing. So far my 8 Pack ram has failed miserably on my x370 board. I've sent it back as faulty. Wont even run at DOCP with out freezing.

So you think it's your mobo, and think a new mobo would fix it, but you've sent the RAM back as faulty? :confused:

Hotwired · 10 May 2018 at 10:26

eddiew said:
Ryzen volts always look unreasonable... AMD keep telling us they're fine. I guess we'll start to find out in another year or two if the first gen chips start dying

AMD said 1.45 is too much

That one is over 1.5 so I dunno where you heard it was ok from.

opethdisciple · 10 May 2018 at 10:57

HeX said:
So you think it's your mobo, and think a new mobo would fix it, but you've sent the RAM back as faulty?

I didnt say I think it's my mobo.

The problems all started as soon as this 8 pack ram was installed. So the most logical thing to do rather than going and spending yet more money on a part that may not need replacing is send it back as faulty.

If new sticks come back and I am still experiencing the same problem, then I know for sure it's the mobo.

But considering I've had the mobo for 1 year and things where fine and the problem started as soon as the 8 pack ram went in is a strong indication that the ram is the issue.

Plus other people have the 8 pack ram on this board and run it supposedly faster than DOCP with no issues. So the mobo can do it.

I'm only interested in a new mobo, as I want to take advantage of Performance Enhancer feature as well as I've read ram overclocks better on the new x470 platform.

I probably wont buy a new mobo but just an idea.

chroniclard · 10 May 2018 at 11:02

PE works on X370 boards as well, though going new I would get a X470.

opethdisciple · 10 May 2018 at 11:04

chroniclard said:
PE works on X370 boards as well, though going new I would get a X470.

There is no PE option on the Prime Pro x370.

What I mean is the premium boards have it.

Have they back ported it to the CH6?

Zeed · 10 May 2018 at 11:11

@opethdisciple

Cause this is stable 24/7 setting PE4 wont be stable no matter what. Well If You are willing to pump 1.6 in to single core and 1.5 in to all cores it will be. I want to see You run that on 24/7 100% cpu load

I'm at work and my rig is pulling 420 watts from wall mining atm.

Besides that You want to overclock when You cant even get stock Stable ?? Its like ill drop 120mg of mdma hmmm not enough lets go for 500mg then people blame drugs for stupidity cause someone died...

Maybe get system stable fist then think of overclocking ??

chroniclard · 10 May 2018 at 11:12

opethdisciple said:
There is no PE option on the Prime Pro x370.

What I mean is the premium boards have it.

Have they back ported it to the CH6?

Oh sorry, thought it was in all 370 boards now.

Yeah CH6, there is a PE option on the first screen. Also PBO is buried under the more advanced settings.

I am actually tempted to get a CH7, just because......

opethdisciple · 10 May 2018 at 11:15

chroniclard said:
Oh sorry, thought it was in all 370 boards now. Yeah CH6, there is a PE option on the first screen. Also PBO is buried under the more advanced settings.

I am actually tempted to get a CH7, just because......

It's strange. My Prime Pro has PBO but no PE options. (unless I am not looking for it in the right place.)

HeX · 10 May 2018 at 11:47

Prime Pro probably doesn't have good enough VRMs for PE. PE essentially raises the power draw limits of the CPU, which is why X470 mobo's have much better power delivery components and cooling than most X370 boards. CH6 had really good over spec'd VRMs anyway so it's more than capable of handling the additional load from PE.

opethdisciple · 10 May 2018 at 11:50

HeX said:
Prime Pro probably doesn't have good enough VRMs for PE. PE essentially raises the power draw limits of the CPU, which is why X470 mobo's have much better power delivery components and cooling than most X370 boards. CH6 had really good over spec'd VRMs anyway so it's more than capable of handling the additional load from PE.

Do you think the Prime Pro X470 would have PE?