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NismoSXZ · 29 Oct 2020 at 10:15

Will a 5000 series chip work straight out the box in my msi mortar b550 or will I have to find a usb drive to load a driver onto and flash the motherboard before I install the chip?

megatron · 29 Oct 2020 at 10:33

Have u checked your motherboard censor's support site, and compared this to wharlt u see in the bios?

gambiting · 29 Oct 2020 at 10:50

NismoSXZ said:
Will a 5000 series chip work straight out the box in my msi mortar b550 or will I have to find a usb drive to load a driver onto and flash the motherboard before I install the chip?

It depends what's on the board already, but you can't know that without powering it on. I imagine it would be safest to flash it from a USB stick first.

Gee · 29 Oct 2020 at 11:33

Guest2 said:
Did the watch the PCB breakdown? It mentions nothing about LN2 when covering the 2 x 8 pins

BigBANGtheory said:
No its about powering the PCIe devices via the board, not needed for most people but its there for those who get closer to those limits

You are both wrong. I suggest you watch his later video where he corrects himself:

A single 8 pin CPU power connector can provide 384w, for 99% of people this is more than enough. If you plan on going hard with LN2 or 'extreme' overclocking, plug in the extra 8 (or 4) pin connector if it's available.

clv101 · 29 Oct 2020 at 11:42

gambiting said:
It depends what's on the board already, but you can't know that without powering it on. I imagine it would be safest to flash it from a USB stick first.

When you say 'safest', nothing bad happens if you powerup with a 5000 series chip, and it isn't supported. Then you can do the USB flash?

Gee · 29 Oct 2020 at 11:47

NismoSXZ said:
Will a 5000 series chip work straight out the box in my msi mortar b550 or will I have to find a usb drive to load a driver onto and flash the motherboard before I install the chip?

Flash the BIOS (that supports Zen3) prior to installing the CPU.

clv101 · 29 Oct 2020 at 11:50

Gee said:
Flash the BIOS (that supports Zen3) prior to installing the CPU.

What happens if you do it after discovering old BIOS doesn't support?

Gee · 29 Oct 2020 at 11:53

If the BIOS doesn't recognise the CPU, it won't POST/boot.

BIOS flashback is there for a reason - you can flash a BIOS without the CPU/RAM installed.

clv101 · 29 Oct 2020 at 11:57

Indeed, but is there any reason why you can't do that with the CPU installed, system fully built?

Guest2 · 29 Oct 2020 at 12:02

Gee said:
You are both wrong. I suggest you watch his later video where he corrects himself:

A single 8 pin CPU power connector can provide 384w, for 99% of people this is more than enough. If you plan on going hard with LN2 or 'extreme' overclocking, plug in the extra 8 (or 4) pin connector if it's available.

I'm not wrong, he mentioned nothing of LN2.
The PCIe power was incorrect as shown on your video but the extra 8 pin could be used by GPUs if required

gambiting · 29 Oct 2020 at 12:02

clv101 said:
Indeed, but is there any reason why you can't do that with the CPU installed, system fully built?

I would guess not. At least the manual for the X570 Tomahawk says "the CPU and RAM don't have to be present" about the USB flash. It doesn't say that they "can't" be present, just that they don't have to be.

Gee · 29 Oct 2020 at 12:17

Guest2 said:
I'm not wrong, he mentioned nothing of LN2.
The PCIe power was incorrect as shown on your video but the extra 8 pin could be used by GPUs if required

There's a video of an engineer from MSI explaining that the two 8 pin connectors are for the CPU only. Buildzoid was wrong in his video you linked, he corrects himself in the video I posted.

The additional 8 pin CPU power cable, does NOT provide power to the PCI-E slots.

Guest2 · 29 Oct 2020 at 12:34

Gee said:
There's a video of an engineer from MSI explaining that the two 8 pin connectors are for the CPU only. Buildzoid was wrong in his video you linked, he corrects himself in the video I posted.

The additional 8 pin CPU power cable, does NOT provide power to the PCI-E slots.

Oh yeh, sorry, me being a spongo and not realising GPUs are PCI-E

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At least Buildzoid said he was wrong instead of coming up with excuses like most people would do

Guest2 · 29 Oct 2020 at 12:39

clv101 said:
Indeed, but is there any reason why you can't do that with the CPU installed, system fully built?

I have an X570 MEG Unify but not sure if the board comes with the latest BIOS

Version 7C35vA73 (Beta version) 2020-09-29
"Updated AMD AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.1.0.0"

It might not so have followed that video and added the latest BIOS to USB just in case. I also contacted MSI asking them if the MEG Unify shipped with the latest BIOS (purchased last week) I might aswell flash to the latest BIOS before connecting anything

Thanks for the vid Gee

Gee · 29 Oct 2020 at 12:47

Guest2 said:
Oh yeh, sorry, me being a spongo and not realising GPUs are PCI-E .
At least Buildzoid said he was wrong instead of coming up with excuses like most people would do

Finally, we got there in the end.

Guest2 said:
I have an X570 MEG Unify but not sure if the board comes with the latest BIOS

Version 7C35vA73 (Beta version) 2020-09-29
"Updated AMD AGESA ComboAm4v2PI 1.1.0.0"

It might not so have followed that video and added the latest BIOS to USB just in case. I also contacted MSI asking them if the MEG Unify shipped with the latest BIOS (purchased last week) I might aswell flash to the latest BIOS before connecting anything

Thanks for the vid Gee

Your board would not have shipped with a BETA bios. My guess is that it comes with 7C35vA5 (dated 2020-08-10)

gambiting · 29 Oct 2020 at 13:11

I think most importantly, there is no downside or risk to flashing the board with the latest BIOS even if it already has it, so my logic is that you might as well do it before the CPU arrives so you know you are 100% ready.

Rom · 29 Oct 2020 at 14:00

Ive got to wait until I strip this system. I do have a new PSU, but cant really be bothered trying to rig it up to my Tomahawk on the desk just to flash the bios.

Will any USB work, or does it need to be a small capacity one? Think I read issue with using 32gb etc

gambiting · 29 Oct 2020 at 14:04

Rom said:
Ive got to wait until I strip this system. I do have a new PSU, but cant really be bothered trying to rig it up to my Tomahawk on the desk just to flash the bios.

Will any USB work, or does it need to be a small capacity one? Think I read issue with using 32gb etc

Tomahawk's manual says it has to be formatted as FAT32, and by default windows won't let you format anything larger than 32GB as FAT32(it can still be done, but only with external tools).

Rom · 29 Oct 2020 at 14:08

gambiting said:
Tomahawk's manual says it has to be formatted as FAT32, and by default windows won't let you format anything larger than 32GB as FAT32(it can still be done, but only with external tools).

Thats fine, cant remeber what board it was. But remember reading something about people having to use 2gb usb etc.

Thanks

Guest2 · 29 Oct 2020 at 14:21

Rom said:
Ive got to wait until I strip this system. I do have a new PSU, but cant really be bothered trying to rig it up to my Tomahawk on the desk just to flash the bios.

Will any USB work, or does it need to be a small capacity one? Think I read issue with using 32gb etc

Similar position as you. My system now is all rigged up and CBA unplugging things just to flash the BIOS. Next week before putting the CPU in i'll flash it before

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