Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D

[Iron Man]

Ha! I just had an email at 13:01 to say they'd missed me.. I checked the doorbell camera and the bugger never rang the bloody doorbell (The door bell does 'human' detection), must have knocked and no one heard him.. I'm getting it redelivered to a local shop tomorrow.

I know this isn't the thread, but I've been on the fence about which X670E motherboard, going between the £300-£350 boards like the Gaming X and either the MSI Carbon or Asus Strix E-E for £520ish.. but then saw a review of the ASUS B650E-E which aside from power delivery, has all the main features for the price of an entry level X670 so made an impulse purchase, purely based off the reviews comparing it to the X670E-E which reviewed well and was recommended on HUB.

That’s annoying and it gets to the point where you have to stand outside your door for the hour window just to get guaranteed delivery.

I got the x670e Crosshair Hero originally but I saw it was opened already and missing accessories so I got a refund and went for the X670-f. Was tempted on the -e version but it was £150 more and didn’t offer anything I needed. Will be building my new system on Friday and fingers crossed the motherboard is decent.

 

[Deleted member 258511]

@LtMatt Have you had a chance to test anything yet? Mine still hasn’t arrived.

 

[Rawr]

I know this isn't the thread, but I've been on the fence about which X670E motherboard, going between the £300-£350 boards like the Gaming X and either the MSI Carbon or Asus Strix E-E for £520ish.. but then saw a review of the ASUS B650E-E which aside from power delivery, has all the main features for the price of an entry level X670 so made an impulse purchase, purely based off the reviews comparing it to the X670E-E which reviewed well and was recommended on HUB.

I've been looking through motherboards and I think my biggest disappointment with the cheap motherboards is that most of them only have 4x Sata jacks these days. I guess I am a bit of a weird person using so many (4x SSD and a Bluray drive) though.

yup always noticed the spikes with AMD even at idle anything like rgb software / fan monitoring, even though I tried to make system lean as possible hopefully they can improve that with zen5

Yeah I dunno if it's gotten better but I ended up buying a NH-D15 for my 3900X because of how the CPU would spike even when the computer was completely idle. I had a worse cooler which was a bit louder before and every time it happened the fan would ramp up for a second and then go back down. I can tolerate louder fans but the fact it would speed up and then stop, speed up then stop constantly drove me nuts. The NH-D15 just allowed me to set a loose fan curve so it would only rev up when it actually needed to during gaming or other high process workloads.

On the plus side I can just keep using that cooler, it's still going strong and should be enough for the new CPU's too.

 

[Bencher]

On the plus side I can just keep using that cooler, it's still going strong and should be enough for the new CPU's too.

If noctua can't cool it, nothing can. I used a u12a on a 13900kf, it did great, so yeah.

 

[uscool]

I've been looking through motherboards and I think my biggest disappointment with the cheap motherboards is that most of them only have 4x Sata jacks these days. I guess I am a bit of a weird person using so many (4x SSD and a Bluray drive) though.


Yeah I dunno if it's gotten better but I ended up buying a NH-D15 for my 3900X because of how the CPU would spike even when the computer was completely idle. I had a worse cooler which was a bit louder before and every time it happened the fan would ramp up for a second and then go back down. I can tolerate louder fans but the fact it would speed up and then stop, speed up then stop constantly drove me nuts. The NH-D15 just allowed me to set a loose fan curve so it would only rev up when it actually needed to during gaming or other high process workloads.

On the plus side I can just keep using that cooler, it's still going strong and should be enough for the new CPU's too.

Temps not really an issue can just set delay for when the fans kick in so don't get them ramping up and down, so only spin up if the load is consistent

I have mine on aio and fan curve according to the liquid temp so it's gradual

It's just the CPU watts spikes

 

[Deleted member 258511]

Just like that mysteriously swaps to venting about a strawman instead

You said I couldn’t quote you……I did.

The fact that you think 720p and 1080p benchmarks for new CPU’s are “a farce” the difference doesn’t matter” and “is that why people buy new CPU’s to play at 720p and 1080p” is enough. You are getting no more from me.

 

[Rawr]

Temps not really an issue can just set delay for when the fans kick in so don't get them ramping up and down, so only spin up if the load is consistent

I have mine on aio and fan curve according to the liquid temp so it's gradual

It's just the CPU watts spikes

Well motherboard dependent to be fair. My motherboard didn't offer too many options for delaying the fan rev up/hysteresis options, the latest you could set it was still not enough to smooth out the spikes.

 

[uscool]

Well motherboard dependent to be fair. My motherboard didn't offer too many options for delaying the fan rev up, the latest you could set it was still not enough to smooth out the spikes.

You can also use this, I use it to set fan curves for the case fans love it and very light weight

GitHub - Rem0o/FanControl.Releases: This is the release repository for Fan Control, a highly customizable fan controlling software for Windows.

This is the release repository for Fan Control, a highly customizable fan controlling software for Windows. - Rem0o/FanControl.Releases

github.com

 

[Rawr]

You can also use this, I use it to set fan curves for the case fans love it and very light weight

GitHub - Rem0o/FanControl.Releases: This is the release repository for Fan Control, a highly customizable fan controlling software for Windows.

This is the release repository for Fan Control, a highly customizable fan controlling software for Windows. - Rem0o/FanControl.Releases

github.com

Well perhaps 3-4 years too late haha since I ended up solving it by having a different cooler, but in the future if I come across the issue again it might be useful. It's just bizarre how some motherboard manufacturers don't offer that much control for fans in their bios/windows programs.

 

[LtMatt]

@LtMatt Have you had a chance to test anything yet? Mine still hasn’t arrived.

Yes, but been busy at work and just as I was getting settings dialled in a new BiOS update dropped. So far it’s looking to be about 15%faster than my tuned 7950X. Will get some results up but going to take a bit longer than I’d hoped.

 

[uscool]

Well perhaps 3-4 years too late haha since I ended up solving it by having a different cooler, but in the future if I come across the issue again it might be useful. It's just bizarre how some motherboard manufacturers don't offer that much control for fans in their bios/windows programs.

Yeah I used that because I wanted to set case fans curves according to the GPU temps and bios only gives CPU

GPU pumps out more heat so for me setting case fan seems optimal

And the 3 fans on the rad is enough just setting them for CPU

 

[Deleted member 258511]

Yes, but been busy at work and just as I was getting settings dialled in a new BiOS update dropped. So far it’s looking to be about 15%faster than my tuned 7950X. Will get some results up but going to take a bit longer than I’d hoped.

Typical, a new bios dropping at the worst time possible.

Looking forward to seeing some real results. Hopefully even Toms Diner at some point this week

 

[Curlyriff]

Core Parking On The 7950X3D, Explained!

What's the deal with core parking? Wendell gives you the scoop, and explains how it can improve performance on AMD's newest CPU!Old school Threadripper regr...

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Here is a useful video about core parking and what it's doing from a useful YTber.

 

[keyser van someone]

Here is a useful video about core parking and what it's doing from a useful YTber.

I was 5 mins in and was waiting for the parkour to start but that was my other tab.

 

[MartinPrince]

We are past that ^^^^

If we are then you had might want to tell @Dave2150 as he is still spreading misinformation and lies that he will save the cost of the CPU (or even the difference) over the next few months due to the "HUGE" power saving and the current price of electricity.

 

[jigger]

If we are then you had might want to tell @Dave2150 as he is still spreading misinformation and lies that he will save the cost of the CPU (or even the difference) over the next few months due to the "HUGE" power saving and the current price of electricity.

A few years. Maybe 3 years +/- a few moths looking what’s expected to happen with electricity prices.

 

[Deleted member 258511]

If we are then you had might want to tell @Dave2150 as he is still spreading misinformation and lies that he will save the cost of the CPU (or even the difference) over the next few months due to the "HUGE" power saving and the current price of electricity.

Not possible when you own both the 13900k and the 7950x 3d. He’s deluded.

 

[Demon]

I've been looking through motherboards and I think my biggest disappointment with the cheap motherboards is that most of them only have 4x Sata jacks these days. I guess I am a bit of a weird person using so many (4x SSD and a Bluray drive) though.

I think since SATA is so relatively slow compared to M.2, things have moved on, but honestly a cheap drop in PCIE -> SATA card would be an easy solution, I use the LSI SAS 9207-8i card to get 8 SATA ports on my unRAID server (that and 6 on board SATA + M.2 sockets for RAID Cache drives).

I also use a USB-C -> M.2 enclosure for extra storage on my gaming PC, that gets >1000MB/s read/write speeds which is far ahead of SATA..


The reason I went with the Asus B650E-E is it has the same PCIE5 configuration as the well reviewed Asus X670E-E but for £320

 

[LtMatt]

A few benchmarks on Windows 10, comparing the 7950X3D Vs my tuned 7950X, both with SMT off. My 7950X3D was dialled in for the best performance I could get out of it, which currently means disabling the second CCD which allows more power budget for CCD0. Disabling CCD1 on the 7950X didn't bring any major benefits in the games I tested, and there was plenty of power headroom so it was left enabled. So far the 7950X3D tune is a work in progress as I've only been able to play with it for a few hours today. Nonetheless so far I have the following in SOTTR (1080P lowest no RT) and FC6 (720P low + RT + HQ Textures)

7950X SOTTR 402 CPU Avg FPS

Spoiler

7950X3D 462 CPU Avg FPS

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X3D 15% faster

FC6 7950X 240 FPS

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7950X3D - 283 FPS

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X3D is 18% faster.

Tomorrow I am going to reinstall my OS (Windows 10 and 11) as I'm currently using the build that was for my 7950X and I'd like to make sure I'm not leaving any performance on the table.

 

[Rawr]

I think since SATA is so relatively slow compared to M.2, things have moved on, but honestly a cheap drop in PCIE -> SATA card would be an easy solution, I use the LSI SAS 9207-8i card to get 8 SATA ports on my unRAID server (that and 6 on board SATA + M.2 sockets for RAID Cache drives).

I also use a USB-C -> M.2 enclosure for extra storage on my gaming PC, that gets >1000MB/s read/write speeds which is far ahead of SATA..


The reason I went with the Asus B650E-E is it has the same PCIE5 configuration as the well reviewed Asus X670E-E but for £320

True. Admittedly when the price of NVMes come down a little more for large storage I think they will take over now motherboards have more M.2 slots.

The only downside of adding in a PCIE card is that it's just extra to the cost, so its basically whether it's all still worth it in the end. Will have to do some research but I've got time since I couldn't get a 7950x3d yesterday anyway, lol.

That motherboard does seem good value for money though.