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Poll: Ryzen 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7800X3D

Will you be purchasing the 7800X3D on the 6th?


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You said I couldn’t quote you……I did.

The fact that you think 720p and 1080p benchmarks for new CPU’s are “a farce” the difference doesn’t matter” and “is that why people buy new CPU’s to play at 720p and 1080p” is enough. You are getting no more from me.

You clipped two lines and pretended the rest didn't exist. Which is a lie.

That's why I quoted everyone including you.

Despite what you're saying, the entire time it was about claiming gaming crowns and the poor value in it.

Launch happened and since then I have spoken against upgrading without any specifically beneficial case in mind, from an already decent cpu because there's not enough in it as predicted.
 
I’ve just got my system finally setup and I’ve been running some initial Port Royal benchmarks to test the OC on the 7900XTX. On some of the early benchmarks I can see the CPU clock results were reaching 6310MHz. I had since fiddled with the game bar setting after updating it and those runs dropped down to 5548MHz. This seems really high for a stock 7950X3D to be running 6310MHz on the non 3D cached CCD and 5548MHz on the 3D cached one.
Happy to hear you finally got your system built and online dude. It's been a long time coming.. How you enjoying it so far?
 
Happy to hear you finally got your system built and online dude. It's been a long time coming.. How you enjoying it so far?
It’s been awesome. Really rapid system! After hearing the issues with RAM I was expecting problems but EXPO II ran straight away and I’ve not had any issues so far. After getting all the drivers installed I started pushing the GPU a bit in Adrenalin (currently 3000/5500) and benching in Port Royal.

I’ll have time on Friday to get some games running so looking forward to that! :D
 
I think since SATA is so relatively slow compared to M.2, things have moved on, but honestly a cheap drop in PCIE -> SATA card would be an easy solution, I use the LSI SAS 9207-8i card to get 8 SATA ports on my unRAID server (that and 6 on board SATA + M.2 sockets for RAID Cache drives).

I also use a USB-C -> M.2 enclosure for extra storage on my gaming PC, that gets >1000MB/s read/write speeds which is far ahead of SATA..


The reason I went with the Asus B650E-E is it has the same PCIE5 configuration as the well reviewed Asus X670E-E but for £320

The B650E-E is the board I'm looking at, and I follow Laurent too..I like his style when reviewing boards and goes into detail. How are you finding it? I can get for £330 where I am, the X670e-e for £390, so still deciding. don't know if I need the extra of the x670e-e, as the b board seems to have everything I want, but idea of going more premium is to futureproof myself as much as possible
 
The B650E-E is the board I'm looking at, and I follow Laurent too..I like his style when reviewing boards and goes into detail. How are you finding it? I can get for £330 where I am, the X670e-e for £390, so still deciding. don't know if I need the extra of the x670e-e, as the b board seems to have everything I want, but idea of going more premium is to futureproof myself as much as possible
there are X670E options below £320 imho that is the ceiling unless you are shopping for something very specific
 
....depending on your use case, you can't say that across the board and in general terms imho there are plenty of situations, applications and games that will have a cache miss against 128MB and need to go out to your RAM.
My use case is gaming, and I can indeed say that from my own testing. :)
 
What ram are you using Matt?
I was using 2x16GB 6000C30 single rank sticks, but a week before the X3D I've moved to 2x32GB 6000C30 dual rank sticks. Currently running them at 6000C28 with tuned timings. X3D parts have about 4-5ns worse latency in Aida64 vs non X3D parts, I get about 58ns in Aida64 with these timings.
 
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I was using 2x16GB 6000C30 single rank sticks, but a week before the X3D I've moved to 2x32GB 6000C30 dual rank sticks. Currently running them at 6000C28 with tuned timings. X3D parts have about 4-5ns worse latency in Aida64 vs non X3D parts, I get about 58ns in Aida64 with these timings.
That latency isn’t bad at all. Just with you saying that these CPU’s can run on slower memory without much difference, I thought you might have tested a CL36 kit or similar. Im keen to find out how much difference it actually makes on these. I might have to buy another kit and test myself if mine ever arrives that is.
 
That latency isn’t bad at all. Just with you saying that these CPU’s can run on slower memory without much difference, I thought you might have tested a CL36 kit or similar. Im keen to find out how much difference it actually makes on these. I might have to buy another kit and test myself if mine ever arrives that is.
As I've said before, you can run your 6000c36 Sammy kit at 6000c30 - 34 _34_58 with 65535 trefi. Just bump the voltage to 1.4 - 1.435 and you good to go.
 
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That latency isn’t bad at all. Just with you saying that these CPU’s can run on slower memory without much difference, I thought you might have tested a CL36 kit or similar. Im keen to find out how much difference it actually makes on these. I might have to buy another kit and test myself if mine ever arrives that is.
I tested 5200Mhz C28 and there was not much difference at all. If you go X3D, just get the cheapest kit you can find and tune it yourself. No need to get the fastest memory kit to get top tier performance on X3D.
 
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As I've said before, you can run your 6000c36 Sammy kit at 6000c30 - 34 _34_58 with 65535 trefi. Just bump the voltage to 1.4 - 1.435 and you good to go.
I actually managed to get a CL30 kit which I’ll tune anyway. I’m just interested in how much difference this would make. I’ve heard it mentioned quite a bit that it doesn’t matter as much, but others say it still does. I’d just like to see someone test it and find out.

I tested 5200Mhz C28 and there was not much difference at all. If you go X3D, just get the cheapest kit you can find and tune it yourself. No need to get the fastest memory kit to get top tier performance on X3D.
That’s good to hear.

Have you had any issues yet with the CPU? I know you haven’t had it long. Are the cores behaving nicely, and Xbox gamebar?
 
I actually managed to get a CL30 kit which I’ll tune anyway. I’m just interested in how much difference this would make. I’ve heard it mentioned quite a bit that it doesn’t matter as much, but others say it still does. I’d just like to see someone test it and find out.


That’s good to hear.

Have you had any issues yet with the CPU? I know you haven’t had it long. Are the cores behaving nicely, and Xbox gamebar?
No issues so far. Make sure Game bar / Game mode are enabled (they are by default in Windows), update game bar via Window Store, install chipset drivers, away you go. Some motherboard manufacturer's (Asus and Gigabyte that I know of so far) are adding an option in the BIOS that does this automatically without needing to worry about Game bar.
 
No issues so far. Make sure Game bar / Game mode are enabled (they are by default in Windows), update game bar via Window Store, install chipset drivers, away you go. Some motherboard manufacturer's (Asus and Gigabyte that I know of so far) are adding an option in the BIOS that does this automatically without needing to worry about Game bar.
Ahh good I’ve bought an Asus board.

Do you have to uninstall previous drivers before the new ones on AMD? Just for future reference of course.
 
I actually managed to get a CL30 kit which I’ll tune anyway. I’m just interested in how much difference this would make. I’ve heard it mentioned quite a bit that it doesn’t matter as much, but others say it still does. I’d just like to see someone test it and find out.


That’s good to hear.

Have you had any issues yet with the CPU? I know you haven’t had it long. Are the cores behaving nicely, and Xbox gamebar?
Mine is actually misbehaving. I think because I'm using a very old Windows install (previously I had an Ryzen 2700X, then 5800X and now the 7950X3D), some of the settings are messed up. Notably I think the power plan is not setup correctly and something I installed may have modified it along the way.

I installed the game bar and game mode, installed chipset drivers, but the parking isn't working correctly (I got RTSS running so I can see every core utilisation, and they're all in the high numbers). I used the program called ParkControl to enable core parking, which seems to have worked, but I'm not convinced I'm getting the full performance.

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I did notice there's a setting in the BIOS (I got ROG Strix X670E-F Gaming Wifi) called "x3d core flex gaming", so I might try enabling that and see what happens. Has anyone else tried that?
 
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The B650E-E is the board I'm looking at, and I follow Laurent too..I like his style when reviewing boards and goes into detail. How are you finding it? I can get for £330 where I am, the X670e-e for £390, so still deciding. don't know if I need the extra of the x670e-e, as the b board seems to have everything I want, but idea of going more premium is to futureproof myself as much as possible
It won't arrive until tomorrow, but if you can get an Asus ROG Strix X670E-E for £390, that is a bargain, you can only get the Asus ROG Strix X670E-F around these parts for over £400 (Which is not as good), the Asus ROG Strix X670E-E is well over £500!

The confusing issue is that there is the chipset capability but more importantly, each implementation of it on each motherboard picks/choses what features it wants to use.

The B650E-E scores well for me, because in terms of 'future proofing', it's fast PCIe 5 NVMEs and a PCIe 5 GPUs that I would say I'm more likely to upgrade to in the future, the main difference is the B650E-E gives up 1 x 20gbps USB port and a couple of 10Gbps ports and a few SATA ports, but what it has is more than enough since I only use fast USB as a last resort, it means external short and beefy cables and it's never as reliabel as something directly connected to the motherboard.

Horses for courses.. I've spent the extra (compared to the X670E-E) on DDR5 6000 CL30 memory instead and partially towards an EK Nucleus 360 Lux AIO.
 
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