What has Citys academy produced in recent years. They have these amazing facilities and what has is brought into their first team. United had given way way way more youngsters from their academy a chance over the past 5 years..
you missed the point, I was talking about the academy that has just been opened with the Etihad complex in the last year, it has been reported that these facilities are amongst the best in Europe and the facilities for Utd' s youngsters are years out of date and Utd are struggling to attract the biggest talents.
If we wait much longer, it will be a year + in planning, a year + to build and come online (I seem to recall between first reading it in the press and it finally opening the Etihad project taking at least 18 months, albeit for a potentially larger site) - so we could easily be 3 years behind City if not more.
I don't think we need to change managers every 2-3 years but I don't know what people think is going to happen when we don't appoint top class managers. We will either have to stick with them for 5 years as they do sweet FA or we end up doing what we have done with LvG and Moyes. Appointing managers who are not up to scratch and who have to be pushed out of the door early because they are not good enough.
Personally I would rather we had mourinho for 2-3 years than someone like LvG again. I would be very happy to give a manager 2-3 years grace to build a team and get us playing great football, bringing youth through but hows that plan working out for us so far?.
Seemingly we haven't even thought about Pep until very recently - why not, at least talk to him (I mean before his announcement to leave BM). Or Simione from Atletico, or one of the top guys in Italy , but it doesn't even appear as though Utd speak to this level of manager (certainly nothing reported in the press about these people in regards to Utd)
I think one of the biggest issues we have is that we haven't done anything since Fergie left. Our leaders and senior players have almost completely evaporated so there is no one who feels responsible for our failings. They can be blamed on the manager, the lack of Fergie, the board not buying. At the end of the day we need a manager who can bring us some trophies or at least get us playing with a bit of swagger and confidence. We have a good squad. Easily top 4 and with a few additions we should be competing for the title. At the rate we are going though we will drop into mid table by the end of the season.
Don't disagree with this, but this to me at least depends on the manager first.
LvG attracted a few dutch players (from his previous position) which is usually how the first initial players come into a club, either through the manager knowing them from the national side or working with them at a previous club position, and then it builds from there.
Problem with that is Schweinsteiger may have been a brilliant player8-10 years ago when LvG was there, but while he is obviously trying for the EPL for the most part his legs are gone and is completely a different player (not his fault just a matter of age really and not that suited to the EPL. Mixed reports of how much the transfer fee was, but the astronomical wages could hamper Utd for a few years yet. The dutch players should be squad players, but they are getting 1st XI positions either totally out of position (Blind) or just not ready (Memphis) /consistent enough yet. We did well to get Martial last summer, but again he is young and not that consistent (unsurprisingly). But we have so few options its them or players even younger.
We cant complain about the board not backing LvG , its just going for the wrong targets / positions (why oh why did LvG think in the summer Blind was a reasonable centre back I will never know, not to mention Rojo who is a reasonable squad player at best, Memphis who plainly needs time to adapt and was not ready for this level of competition in the EPL. Just for starters.
Maybe we are just seeing the difference in quality between National and club sides (I wonder who would win between lets say Germany and Barcelona - Barcelona by a few I would suspect although Germany would get a decent amount of goals I suspect). Netherlands were a decent (if not entertaining) at the Worlds a couple of years ago, even if they failed to qualify for the Euros 2016. Not sure if this was management change issues, players not performing or a multitude of factors.
