Its a fallacy to think that just because you don't need to sell that you won't have to. No one wants to sell their best players and most teams don't have to for financial reasons. They do it because if they don't they will either have an unhappy player on their books who perhaps doesn't perform or could even be disruptive. They also don't want a 50m player running down their contract and leaving on a free. There are also clubs that are stepping stones to bigger and better things and Spurs are certainly not at the top of that pile. Why would youth players or exciting players with dreams of going to the best sides in the world go to a club who decides that they don't have to sell so if you perform well then you will not be allowed to move onto bigger and better things.
Poll: Sack Race 2015/16
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Its a fallacy to think that just because you don't need to sell that you won't have to. No one wants to sell their best players and most teams don't have to for financial reasons. They do it because if they don't they will either have an unhappy player on their books who perhaps doesn't perform or could even be disruptive. They also don't want a 50m player running down their contract and leaving on a free. There are also clubs that are stepping stones to bigger and better things and Spurs are certainly not at the top of that pile. Why would youth players or exciting players with dreams of going to the best sides in the world go to a club who decides that they don't have to sell so if you perform well then you will not be allowed to move onto bigger and better things.
Still waiting for LvG to go.
Pep seems to be at City already, effectively, so we should go for Mourinho and give him whatever support he needs. History doesn't suggest it, but he could build something longer term, or at least try.
I dont like the idea (would prefer to give Giggs & Fergie, if rumours are true) a go rather than Mourinho, but any change at all would be positive right now
I dont believe for a second Mourinho can build anything for the future - it will JUST be about the here and now, and I would also suspect the club will be in a (much) worse position once he leaves compared to now
Still waiting for LvG to go.
Pep seems to be at City already, effectively, so we should go for Mourinho and give him whatever support he needs. History doesn't suggest it, but he could build something longer term, or at least try.
He has chosen to manage at Toxic clubs with insane megalomaniac owners, it's not surprising he doesn't stay long.
I'd take him over LvG at the moment just because it's clear it isn't working and it isn't going to get better.
Im wondering if the topsy turvy season is keeping LvG where he is - any other season and the terrible performances + the bad results would probably have been enough (and really should be) - but because West Ham got a point off City and Arsenal lost to their bogey team (as one pair of results that have worked less badly for Utd than they could have) the table doesnt look as bad as the performances merit
After yesterday I was really hoping that was the end and over night (or at least by now) LvG would be out, but the Glazers dont seem to want to rescue this season - even if a great deal of the commercial aspects of the club rely on CL revenue which right now doesnt look like its going to be available next season
After yesterday I was really hoping that was the end and over night (or at least by now) LvG would be out, but the Glazers dont seem to want to rescue this season - even if a great deal of the commercial aspects of the club rely on CL revenue which right now doesnt look like its going to be available next season
They're a few places higher than they would have been 2 years ago but the biggest difference is no runaway high performing team at the top.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/...ays-premier-league-season-review-january.html
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/...ays-premier-league-season-review-january.html
i'd say it's more to do with the board not having the balls to make the decision to sack him. they sacked moyes ( who now has a better record, didn't spend as much ) and they got his replacement very wrong.
if they get it wrong again, which is highly probable. then what, sack the manager again? they need to get with the times and do this. no one gives a ****. as a fan, what do you want, results or your team to stick with a manager? other than arsenal have done with wenger, it's not the way things are.
surely there must have been a minimum requirement for him keeping his job? i'd imagine it was europa. that's slipping week by week. this happens in all walks of life. my friend works a buyer and when he got the job it was made perfectly clear that should a runner ever go out of stock, he'd be sacked and he wouldn't walk away with millions like butthead will
Exactly the point - its the percentage of points compared to the top as much as terrible individual results or performances
How delusional are you cm - Europa?????? That wouldnt have even be considered, CL was minimal requirements and still mathmatically more than possible.
Of course the board has the ***** there just isnt a standout other option available given that 1/2 the board dislike Mourinho option and Giggs doesnt have enough experience ( and nobody else is really available worth considering)
Moyes only has a better record because it was an "easier" - ie less topsy turvy - season, which has to be taken into account
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That seems to be the case, he's offered to resign and Woodward has urged him to discuss it with his family, etc. There are claims he's offered to resign twice already, but Woodward convinced him to stay...
Pretty worrying overall, but hopefully there should be some movement soon. This can't be allowed to continue, people are actually bored to tears and have been for months, and the results over the past 20 games are relegation form.
LvG has had more than a fair crack at the job, an entire season to evaluate the squad, £200m+ spent... What more can be done.
The fact Mourinho is available needs to be taken into consideration, too. We aren't getting Pep, can't get Ancelotti, and Giggs is far too big a risk. Getting Mourinho and giving him the best possible platform to succeed is a no brainer. Nobody will care if we play defensively in big games and win.
The season is still not a total write off, there's a week left of the transfer window, we're in the Europa League and still in the FA Cup. Granted even with a new manager we probably won't win either, but it's something at least. And top 4 isn't totally gone yet, far from it.
Pretty worrying overall, but hopefully there should be some movement soon. This can't be allowed to continue, people are actually bored to tears and have been for months, and the results over the past 20 games are relegation form.
LvG has had more than a fair crack at the job, an entire season to evaluate the squad, £200m+ spent... What more can be done.
The fact Mourinho is available needs to be taken into consideration, too. We aren't getting Pep, can't get Ancelotti, and Giggs is far too big a risk. Getting Mourinho and giving him the best possible platform to succeed is a no brainer. Nobody will care if we play defensively in big games and win.
The season is still not a total write off, there's a week left of the transfer window, we're in the Europa League and still in the FA Cup. Granted even with a new manager we probably won't win either, but it's something at least. And top 4 isn't totally gone yet, far from it.
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be careful what u wish for, LVG should stay at united
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Mourinho is a short term fix though? in 3 years time they will be in the same boat so there is no point getting him at all
How long has guardiola spent at barca and Bayern? Would both clubs rather he never managed them? What about mourinho at Chelsea? How many of their fans wish he was never their manager?
It's not like a manager has to leave a club in dire straights if he moves on after a few years.
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Pep hasn't managed as long as Mourinho and his never been sacked before. One can argue that Barca and bayern where not in a bad state before pep took charge
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35408240
False alarm guys...unfortunately
FFS why won't he go!?
False alarm guys...unfortunately
FFS why won't he go!?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35408240
False alarm guys...unfortunately
FFS why won't he go!?
Hard to say what's going on really, so many conflicting reports. Simon Stone at the BBC tends to have similar sources to everyone else.
Annoying.
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The official club line is that he didn't offer to resign, but they're bound to say that. What's more worrying is that Woodward doesn't seem to care about the fans or indeed the results that much, and wants him to stay despite things being in a terrible state. Van Gaal is speaking in more defeatist terms than even Moyes was.
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