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Buttkicker said:
Not trying to do anything but reading this thread and others people are instrucing how to load windows and the general advice seems to be dissconnect other drives and dont assign a drive along with delete any partitions

I dont own this drive but am thinking of upgrading to a a much larger SSD and am somewhat puzzled as to why you cannot have a partition while loading windows etc

if you read back in the various samsung ssd threads this subject keeps popping up and I just wondered why??

if I buy a large SSD drive to be used as a boot drive I want to put a partition on it and I was under the impression that the way to do it was at the preparing the hard drive before installing windows then install to the drive of choice

I am considering this samsung drive but tweaktown's review is not great and has rather put me off this drive
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The reason its advisable to disconnect all other drives is to make sure that windows installs to the SSD and doesn't put any of the boot/system files on other disks.

If you start with an unused/unpartitioned disk, then the default option is for windows to sort all the partitioning for you. The other advice you mention is probably to delete any old partitions so that windows is installing to an empty disk.
 
Guys
I actually have a Vertex 2 as my boot drive but it is not big enough at 64gb and am in the process of assembling bits and bobs for an upgrade
I also have a bunch of hard drives in my PC full of images and movies etc
but I do a lot of image editing and like to keep a section of hard drive free for photoshop scratch drive and Cache and possibly swap file and its best to keep such a drive clean of other files hence me wanting to partition whatever drive I decide to get

a full drive does'nt bench as fast as a near empty one so hence my interest in putting a partition on 256gb boot drive

as for tweaktown its just one review of many and the bulk of them seem to be impressed with this drive
 
wonko said:
The reason its advisable to disconnect all other drives is to make sure that windows installs to the SSD and doesn't put any of the boot/system files on other disks.

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Wonko
thanks for the input
I have done a fair bit of re-installing windows in the past and I always opt for the custom install and it shows all the drives available so I just select the SSD drive shown and it installs on the drive I have selected

its the same with the exception of my current SSD boot drive (which is not big enough) I have always had a partition of my boot drive
hence my interest in this thread with the advice given about disconnecting all other drives
 
I have to say, I'm more impressed by that USB adapter that came with mine than the SSD itself lol. It's the little things that impress me most!

Buy new SSD upgade; Gain new portable USB SSD!

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Not that I'm not impressed by the Samsung SSD of course!
 
What size of drive did you get the usb adaptor with as i did not get one with my 64gb

Ignore me just found it on first page
 
Not sure why some don't understand why people want to partition the drive to hold windows? I always have done so only need to format that partition to reinstall windows without disturbing the other data. I don't understand why that would be different whether SSD or mechanical?
 
Buttkicker said:
but I do a lot of image editing and like to keep a section of hard drive free for photoshop scratch drive and Cache and possibly swap file and its best to keep such a drive clean of other files hence me wanting to partition whatever drive I decide to get

a full drive does'nt bench as fast as a near empty one so hence my interest in putting a partition on 256gb boot drive
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This is completely irrelevant with an SSD.

Partition doesn't help the speed loss of a "used" drive... it's the total space of the drive, doesn't matter if it's partitioned or not.

The Samsung also doesn't use the compression speed method of Sandforce drive, so you won't lose as much speed with a full drive as you would with something using Sandforce.
 
Devious said:
Not sure why some don't understand why people want to partition the drive to hold windows? I always have done so only need to format that partition to reinstall windows without disturbing the other data. I don't understand why that would be different whether SSD or mechanical?
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Depends how you use your drive, I guess.

With an SSD - I would always want to clear the entire drive with a re-install to regain all/any lost speed - anything worth storing is held elsewhere.

The only performance reason to partition, is defunct with SSDs - that was my point.
 
Buttkicker said:
Wonko
thanks for the input
I have done a fair bit of re-installing windows in the past and I always opt for the custom install and it shows all the drives available so I just select the SSD drive shown and it installs on the drive I have selected

its the same with the exception of my current SSD boot drive (which is not big enough) I have always had a partition of my boot drive
hence my interest in this thread with the advice given about disconnecting all other drives
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Fair enough :) Even if you've selected the intended disk, IIRC the installer can still put the the sys partition elsewhere if that disk isn't the first enumerated disk that windows 'sees'.

Not quite sure what you mean by 'always had a partition' - the windows installer needs to create partitions to put windows on. Do you mean you have an additional partition for your data on the boot drive (as just mentioned this is a good idea if you've got s[ace as you can reinstall the os without affecting your data, but 64GB is a bit tight for space to do this).
 
crinkleshoes said:
Depends how you use your drive, I guess.

With an SSD - I would always want to clear the entire drive with a re-install to regain all/any lost speed - anything worth storing is held elsewhere.

The only performance reason to partition, is defunct with SSDs - that was my point.
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I have no experience with SSD, this will be my first.

If it is true that wiping the whole drive is beneficial to just a partition then it is something I would consider. I didn't know SSD's slowed down over time as I though they didn't suffer from fragmentation. I need to read up before I I do my new build.

Something else I wondered, do you disable windows page file altogether or have on a seperate drive? I will have 8Gb ram.
 
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Devious said:
I have no experience with SSD, this will be my first.

If it is true that wiping the whole drive is beneficial to just a partition then it is something I would consider. I didn't know SSD's slowed down over time as I though they didn't suffer from fragmentation. I need to read up before I I do my new build.

Something else I wondered, do you disable windows page file altogether or have on a seperate drive? I will have 8Gb ram.
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It's not fragmentation (as in, the bad kind - the way you would think of it on a spinning platter drive) - SSDs actually fragment data on purpose to keep the speeds high (they work, very roughly, as if they are a raid-5 array between lots and lots of small drives).

This is the reason they slow down as they fill up, as there aren't as many places they can store a file simultaneously. This is also the reason why 256GB drives are usually faster than 128/64.

I reduce my page file to 2GB & have done for years now - never had any trouble & from my research, that seems to be the consensus of recommendation.

I wouldn't move it to another drive, if it's paging at all (shouldn't be with 8GB RAM+, unless you're doing some really memory intensive work) then I would want that paging to be as fast as possible.

ivorito said:
Ignoring price, how do these rate in comparison to a crucial M4? Thanks
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Small improvement - not huge. I'd get whichever was cheapest.
 
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