*****SANDYBRIDGE MOTHERBOARD CHIPSET ISSUE*****

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did bbc news get this wrong? & dont know the difference between memory and hard drives
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12354263


'The problem centres on a chipset that helps a central processor communicate with other parts of a PC, including memory and hard drives. '
- 3 February 2011

scaremongering idiots at bbc news

SSD's could be seen as a type of memory, but agree, they are adding words that are unacessary - scaremongering.
 
For those who haven't read into it yet, or who don't know the issue casue

here

The problem in the chipset was traced back to a transistor in the 3Gbps PLL clocking tree. The aforementioned transistor has a very thin gate oxide, which allows you to turn it on with a very low voltage. Unfortunately in this case Intel biased the transistor with too high of a voltage, resulting in higher than expected leakage current. Depending on the physical characteristics of the transistor the leakage current here can increase over time which can ultimately result in this failure on the 3Gbps ports. The fact that the 3Gbps and 6Gbps circuits have their own independent clocking trees is what ensures that this problem is limited to only ports 2 - 5 off the controller.

Here you go :)
 
I recently purchase the Foxconn H67S Mini ITX anyone tell me if this has problem? I'm guessing on the board the two blue connection are sata3 (surprising their is nothing in the manual which are the sata3 ports), so can I use them to connect to sata2 devices and will I be ok? Bit of a newbie at building computers,
 
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http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-031-FC

States 2xSATA3 and 1xSATA2.

So stick hard drives on the SATA3s and Optical on the SATA2... avoid putting a hard drive on the SATA2 if you can, especially if you're going to be doing large amounts of data transfers over it.

Given 2 ports are black and 1 is blue then Foxconn would have to be retarded for that to not mean black=6Gb/s. Also they should have something like SATA_0 on the mobo next to the ports and the 6Gb/s will be SATA_0 and SATA_1.
 
My system already shows signs of slowing up! I have the Asus P8P67 Standard and my 3G/b ports are showing signs already of this problem. My main system drive when attached to these ports take ages to start up programs etc.

When I use my optical drive in these ports too, the computer doesn't react when I put a disc in, I have to click on the optical drive in My Computer like a million times before the action required is done. And when loading programs on to the PC the load install with get like a part of the way through and then will say no optical drive found, and then after about ten minutes it finds it again...and then continues. But when I come to use the program it’s corrupt.

I have already put forward my case with Asus and got myself a case ID, I’d assume they will contact me in due time. (Product bought form OCUK)

Oh forgot to say when attached to 6G/b ports problems go away, however I have 6 drives, and need more than four ports!?
 
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This sort of thing was bound to happen to someone eventually, I think.

I know it is additional expense, but assuming you have a spare slot available, could you not perhaps use a secondary controller card in the meantime?
 
Hey I bought one of the Asus P8H67 - Evo boards for my dad 2 days before the announcement from Intel, have we had any updates from Asus as to a plan of attack for these? My dad’s quiet worried and wanted to know what the situation is, he has quite a few drives in his rig and is worried about data loss / corruption. I think he is going to want to RMA it. Is there any alternative chip sets available other that H67 and P67?
 
Hey I bought one of the Asus P8H67 - Evo boards for my dad 2 days before the announcement from Intel, have we had any updates from Asus as to a plan of attack for these? My dad’s quiet worried and wanted to know what the situation is, he has quite a few drives in his rig and is worried about data loss / corruption. I think he is going to want to RMA it. Is there any alternative chip sets available other that H67 and P67?

H67/P67 are all that exist at the moment.

Data loss should be a none-issue - unless your dad is running the machine heavily overclocked in a sauna and using the intel sata 2 ports (bottom four) he will not replicate the issue before the manufacturers offer him a free replacement board (which they should deliver to your door and take away the old one at the same time, with any luck). The intel data suggests failure rates of 5-15% at around 3 years under heavier than anticipated usage. The failure mode is that the drive is disconnected. In the worst case, your dad will lose data being written to the drive when the failure occurs. Corruption or loss of existing data will not happen.

That said, I'm a bit disappointed in OCUK for not providing more info. I would have at least expected an e-mail saying "Dear Customer ... Intel discovered fault ... currently not an issue you need to be concerned about except under these exact circumstances ... working with manufacturers to remedy the issue for those affected ... will update as more information becomes available." Instead, all the info we have is on the forum, which I would not have started to frequent if I had not been having unrelated technical problems with my own board (since resolved by bios updates), and people are posting the exact same questions over and over again.

Asus are also well behind the ball compared to Gigabyte and MSI, both of whom have already outlined their replacement plans in some detail.
 
yeah i tried looking at the asus website and at an initial glance on the news section i didnt even see a mention of the cougar point issue. I've had a scan through this thread today, but not read it extensively, is the RMA process gonna be through OCUK or direct with the manufaturers?
 
yeah i tried looking at the asus website and at an initial glance on the news section i didnt even see a mention of the cougar point issue. I've had a scan through this thread today, but not read it extensively, is the RMA process gonna be through OCUK or direct with the manufaturers?

The 'official' statement from Asus can be found here, and so far as I am aware is all they have told us at the moment.
 
Copied across from Overclock.net

Intel's fixed chipsets to ship as early as next week

A week after Intel announced a design flaw in a support chipset used in its second-generation Intel Core processor, widely known as Sandy Bridge, the company said today that it would resume shipments for use in PCs that are not impacted by the flaw.

Meanwhile, the company said it expects to begin shipping a new version of the chip in mid-February, which could presumably be as early as next week. The company said last week that chipsets with Serial-ATA ports could degrade over time and hurt the performance of hard drives and DVD drives.

The support chip just started shipping on Jan. 9 so the company seems to have corrected the problem before it was widespread. It said that the incident will not changed the company’s first quarter or full-year financial outlook.

Source: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/intels...ext-week/44562
 
A week after Intel announced a design flaw in a support chipset used in its second-generation Intel Core processor, widely known as Sandy Bridge, the company said today that it would resume shipments for use in PCs that are not impacted by the flaw.

The official Intel statement confirming this can be found here.

They do actually say that "... Intel has started manufacturing on a new version of this support chip. Intel now expects to begin shipping the new parts in mid February."

Although, as has already been said, there will be a high intial demand, with the first 'batches' presumably going to the likes of HP and Dell, it does now look as if the revised boards may well be available sooner than was initially expected.
 
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