Scottish Inderef Mk2 - lets have a civilized discussion folks.

Surely the elephant in the room is the £1000 spending cut or increased taxation per person to maintain the current level of spending enjoyed by the Scots? Either way it is achieved, that will be a hard pill to swallow.

For some loose anecdotal no way representative evidence: I've been to lots of places in Scotland for work, and to me it appears the roads are all maintained to a high standard, there are lots of new schools, new leisure facilities, new GP surgeries/pharmacies etc. Back in lovely old Essex, it's poor potholed roads, years of rubbish investment in public transport/road infrastructure, closing dilapidated GP surgeries, closing leisure facilities.
 
Brookert said:
For some loose anecdotal no way representative evidence: I've been to lots of places in Scotland for work, and to me it appears the roads are all maintained to a high standard, there are lots of new schools, new leisure facilities, new GP surgeries/pharmacies etc.
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I'm in Glasgow right now and couldn't disagree more. The roads here are shockingly bad.

Hospital on the outskirts looked stunning though!
 
Dis86 that may be due to Glasgow council never being good at collecting council tax and constantly being run by idiots. The local NHS trust is the largest in Scotland and is paying through the nose for its new buildings but part of that is funded by selling off valuable city centre properly.
 
Halfmad said:
Dis86 that may be due to Glasgow council never being good at collecting council tax and constantly being run by idiots. The local NHS trust is the largest in Scotland and is paying through the nose for its new buildings but part of that is funded by selling off valuable city centre properly.
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Aberdeen council are just as useless with regard to roads......

Also I thought council tax ended up all being pooled centrally in Scotland and then was redistributed?
 
Hah, did I hear this right? Sturgeon has abandoned the pledge to rejoin the EU now because a good many independence voters don't want it?

Hahaha, so all her endless posturing and holier-than-thou attitude over nothing. I wish this woman would disappear from politics, everything she does is a storm in a tea cup.
 
norm said:
Hah, did I hear this right? Sturgeon has abandoned the pledge to rejoin the EU now because a good many independence voters don't want it?

Hahaha, so all her endless posturing and holier-than-thou attitude over nothing. I wish this woman would disappear from politics, everything she does is a storm in a tea cup.
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Is there a source for that?
 
I'm confident my fellow Scot's would knock back independence again in a second referendum. No one wants even more economic uncertainty and I doubt even the most staunch of SNP supporters could possible believe their claims that we can get by with oil now. Besides, it's not like the SNP have have done much with the powers they have.

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For what it's worth most of the SNP supporters I know were for Brexit as well. Some of them, my brother for example, has now sworn off the SNP as it doesn't see the point of separating from the UK only to be in the EU.
 
Saw in the news that Sturgeon had struck out at May by claiming she was elected and May wasn't. Somebody should probably explain to her how an election works :rolleyes:
 
Looks like petition going on against another referendum, not sure if these petitions hold any weight but got over 150K signatures so far.
 
The problem you have with Scottish politics is a large majority of Scotland that are too stupid to vote or understand the information being presented for the argument to stay or go.

You have nationalists voting yes.

Then you have people on the fence.

Then you have all the protestants (rangers fans) voting No just because they support a right wing racist football club that flys union jacks and sings song about the queen. Along with those that are scared of change, etc.
 
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