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Rosbif said:
You call that a very good indicator of Islam?
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Actually, if you read what I posted I described it as a good indicator of attitudes within Islam.

You typed Jews in a very strange manner, am I to take it that your opinion of Israel stretches a little further than just the people within the state?
 
Nickg said:
so please tell us, when were the "conventions" of Xmas set out exactly? who were they set out by and for what purpose? - it goes something along the lines of, Pagan worship festival - encompassed by the christian religions - manhandled by capitalism - but no one seemed to really kick up a fuss, care or even question what xmas is about these days, apart from a "given" work holiday where presents are involved...
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Yeah, I agree - but this is an aside to the point I made...
 
CBS, Im totally confused about what you're trying to say now..

Which part are you refering to? That one Islamic group is calling for Christmas to be changed or the other groups slamming that call? Which do you consider to be the indicator of attitudes within Islam?

And I have no opinion on Israel or the Jews its just sarcasm
 
Rosbif said:
CBS, Im totally confused about what you're trying to say now..

Which part are you refering to? That one Islamic group is calling for Christmas to be changed or the other groups slamming that call? Which do you consider to be the indicator of attitudes within Islam?

And I have no opinion on Israel or the Jews its just sarcasm
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he may be alluding to the fact that there are several bodies of islam, with differing opinions - and not one central advisory ala the Pope and Catholocism? this makes decision making and getting concensus very difficult and often leads to infighting and conflict within a single religious faith...
 
[ASSE]Hinchy said:
What about the person who has to live with someone's death on his conscience for the rest of his life after a Sikh on a motorcycle appeared at the last moment? Sikh dies when under normal circumstances he would have survived wearing a helmet. Its not just the Sikh's own good that he wears a helmet.
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I agree. (I'm not sure if you realise :))
 
Oh man, thats lame. Remember when that little girl lied about a man entering her house and raping her a year or so ago? This is like that, but thankfully not quite so bad.
 
Lmao, they held a 2 hour vigil because he "supposedly" has his hair cut.

Seriously, people die and only get a few minutes of silence.
 
Definately should be made an example of and charged with wasting police time. Saying that though, as a Sikh, it is one of the ultimate sins to cut off one's hair and if he really wanted to do it and his family and community would never have approved, leading him to making up such a story, then that is sad in itself.
Wonder whether he's growing his hair back now.

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dirtydog said:
Well I have to go now but I will rejoin the thread tomorrow, if it is still here :p
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dirty dog, I hope you're back, I only read upto where you left your first argument but I'd like to have a dig at you if you don't mind. Firstly, yes you can be racist in a way towards polish people, they're from a different country. Technically, you could argue against this but it doesn't matter, people are still offensive towards them because they're froma different counrty.

secondly, everyone who is in this country has a right to be here. A polish person who is living here has every right you do to be here. I don't see your logic in "they are guests". You, do not understand the situation at all. I bet you're one of these people who say "A person of the same qualifications who is origionally British, deserves this job over the immigrant, because he/she was here first."

*No Personal Attacks*
 
yer_averagejoe said:
dirty dog, I hope you're back, I only read upto where you left your first argument but I'd like to have a dig at you if you don't mind. Firstly, yes you can be racist in a way towards polish people, they're from a different country. Technically, you could argue against this but it doesn't matter, people are still offensive towards them because they're froma different counrty.
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No it isn't racist :) Why? Because they are the same race as me. White.

secondly, everyone who is in this country has a right to be here. A polish person who is living here has every right you do to be here. I don't see your logic in "they are guests". You, do not understand the situation at all. I bet you're one of these people who say "A person of the same qualifications who is origionally British, deserves this job over the immigrant, because he/she was here first."
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Of course Britons should get preferential treatment for jobs. And no, Polish people do not have the same right to be here that I do. They are guests in our 'house' and they should behave respectfully or sod off :) As for everyone in this country having a right to be here - what, apart from the huge amount of illegal immigrants and failed asylum seekers who we haven't deported?
 
yer_averagejoe said:
Why?

If you're not prejudice toward foreign people, why do they have less rights than us? considering they are living and working here, EXACTLY like you are.
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Simple - if a British person wants and is able to do the job then we don't need the immigrant, and if the immigrant were to get the job then he would be depriving a Briton of it, meaning the Briton draws benefits instead.

If Poles are such hard working and resourceful people.... why is their country and economy such a mess? Why don't they develop their own country and grow their own economy?
 
dirtydog said:
Simple - if a British person wants and is able to do the job then we don't need the immigrant, and if the immigrant were to get the job then he would be depriving a Briton of it, meaning the Briton draws benefits instead.
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Its not a case of "bring the immigrant in if we need him" its a case of one human being over another, you're not seeing my point and showing that you are prejudice yourself.

I don't know why their country is such a mess, could be an infinite number of things. As to why they're coming to our country - because they can? Because its better here? Makes sense to me.
 
yer_averagejoe said:
its a case of one human being over another, you're not seeing my point and showing that you are prejudice yourself.
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So you think we should throw our borders open and to hell with the consequences?

Jokester
 
yer_averagejoe said:
Its not a case of "bring the immigrant in if we need him" its a case of one human being over another, you're not seeing my point and showing that you are prejudice yourself.
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We are all equal except our intent... and most Britons are more willing to invest their time and effort into this country, hence the country should return that investment

secondly, everyone who is in this country has a right to be here.
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That's not the case...
 
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