Shooting at live Twitch Madden tournament - four reported to be dead

Werewolf said:
Plenty where it's been from well outside of arms length though...

Much of the time if you had someone with a knife, and someone with a gun doing the same attack at the same place the knife attacker would barely get anyone as they have to get much closer, take longer (and more physical effort), and can be defeated by things like simple internal doors or even just keep an object (table/car) etc in the way.
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Depends how crowded the area is. A gun will need reloading. A knife will not.

I agree that in some situations a gun is more effective, but the knife is in others, its very situational.

I think another problem could be people are more scared of a gun vs a knife so someone is less likely to run towards them or try and stop them.
 
Minusorange said:
It's already illegal to kill people and people don't care about that law, with the amount of guns in America it would be impossible to effectively police a ban on guns, not to mention the cartels in Mexico would take advantage and smuggle lots and lots of guns into the country like they already do with drugs
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Exactly, forcing this ban would require people handing over firearms which they aren't going to do. I would think it would end up with civil war tbh. Even if they managed to get it passed, I bet the number of illegal firearms would be insane and they would have no way of telling if they got them all either, because there is no gun register.
 
Jumper118 said:
Exactly, forcing this ban would require people handing over firearms which they aren't going to do. I would think it would end up with civil war tbh. Even if they managed to get it passed, I bet the number of illegal firearms would be insane and they would have no way of telling if they got them all either, because there is no gun register.
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They didnt do a half bad job of getting folks to register their machine guns, just do the same thing for semi auto's
 
Jumper118 said:
They will just stab you instead. Fewer firearm murders, but more fatal stabbings. I would rather be shot than stabbed. :eek:

A gun is a tool you can use a car or a potato to kill someone. They should ban potatoes
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When Australia introduced new firearm legislation, knife homicides did not rise in response.
 
Roar87 said:
You do realise most mass shootings are just people involved with drugs and gangs shooting each other? it's not people living in quiet suburbs casually owning a pistol for home defence
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The top 22 deadliest mass shootings in American history were not committed by people involved with drugs and gangs. They were committed by people in quiet suburbs.
 
Jumper118 said:
1 time is not statistically significant enough to justify a ban on a widely use tool.
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But it's not one time. Mass shootings occur every day in the USA.

Also, there's no need to ban guns at all. They just need to be better regulated. Australia proved that.
 
Evangelion said:
When Australia introduced new firearm legislation, knife homicides did not rise in response.
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Australia an merica are very different.
Evangelion said:
But it's not one time. Mass shootings occur every day in the USA.

Also, there's no need to ban guns at all. They just need to be better regulated. Australia proved that.
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there is only a mass shooting every day when the definition of mass shooting is massively twisted. How do you think they can better regulate them?
Evangelion said:
How so? Firearm registration does not prevent firearm ownership.
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that isnt the point though is it. the point of not having a register, is so the goverment DON'T know who has what guns. That is the entire point.
adolf hamster said:
what!? :eek: impossible i say!

we all know firearm registration=government taking guns=communism
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no it doesn't, but in the case of civil war it gives the government a massive tactical advantage.
 
'Civil war' is one of the weakest arguments against gun control tbh.

Things have moved on since 1787.
 
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Evangelion said:
The top 22 deadliest mass shootings in American history were not committed by people involved with drugs and gangs. They were committed by people in quiet suburbs.
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Mass shootings are a small percentage of the overall gun deaths though, why put the focus on mass shootings when 33,000 people are shot dead each year? 73 being killed in Vegas is horrific but really not that significant compared to the overall numbers, the majority of which happen due to gangs and drugs.

Bonjour said:
'Civil war' is one of the weakest arguments for gun control tbh.

Things have moved on since 1787.
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That's not what the 2nd amendment is about
 
Bonjour said:
'Civil war' is one of the weakest arguments for gun control tbh.

Things have moved on since 1787.
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Especially when your government has professional land armies, a navy, total air superiority, drones... and a proven track record of blowing up civilians
 
d_brennen said:
Especially when your government has professional land armies, a navy, total air superiority, drones... and a proven track record of blowing up civilians
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You think the US Military would start massacring US civilians who were rightfully protecting their constitutional rights? Most of the US Army would probably be behind them if their constitution was being violated by a tyrannical government
 
Yadda said:
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Well that kind of blows the argument that the loners who commit shootings wouldn't be able to get guns illegally if guns were banned when he got his gun from a gang instead of legally

Just reinforces my view that banning guns won't solve any of the issues that cause these kids to lash out and kill
 
Roar87 said:
You think the US Military would start massacring US civilians who were rightfully protecting their constitutional rights? Most of the US Army would probably be behind them if their constitution was being violated by a tyrannical government
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So then why do they need guns?
 
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