Soldato
Both Twitter and Blue Sky are echo chambers, just that Twitter represents the right and Blue Sky represents the left. I would be happy to ban both in all areas of OcUK except for SC which is the politics sub-forum.
Poll: Should links to Twitter / X be banned on Overclockers?
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Soldato
This left/right factionalism is a threat to the Internet, and countries, as different factions aim to take the other down rather than look at the over all picture.
If you cannot see there are genuine people on 'the other side', you're an extremist.
If you cannot see there are genuine people on 'the other side', you're an extremist.
X isn't just about Musk though, it has a lot of users. Most of these big tech guys are dodgy, should we stop using everything?
I may be completely wrong as I haven't used it, but I get the impression Bluesky is just going to be an anti-X echo chamber...
If a change is needed then this is the perfect solution I believe. Removing one without the other just leads us down to a different flavour of what we are trying to avoid.
There are tons of resources on Twitter which aren't political - one of the reasons I'm critical of the way Twitter has changed under Musk i.e. in previous times it was very useful when significant events like natural disasters happened for people being able to get information, link up with loved ones or those who could help, etc. etc. without necessarily having to worry about logging into accounts and so on and without things like promoted results drowning out the actual useful information.
So shame on Musk in that respect as nothing has really replaced it for that.
Soldato
I never liked the twitter embeds, huge dimensions makes it a pita when using a phone, and the web page performance is pants for the negligible value.
The content itself is extremely low value, like 95% fake/bias trash sort of level, it doesn't make the forum better.
The content itself is extremely low value, like 95% fake/bias trash sort of level, it doesn't make the forum better.
I'd like that to include any news site with a paywall. Nobody likes clicking a link and getting hassled to subscribe instead of the content they expected.
Soldato
They're only echo chambers if you let them be and actively go searching for that; the majority of my social media is pretty clean of political crud.
as said, by throwayay links to newspaper articles don't take up a lot of thread space, or time to render, are not a big t***/spam that gets inserted again if it is replied on, creating a large discontinuity for reading anything.
Xembeds showing a tweet without needing a login are part of X/Musks business model - free advertising space(no license fee for OC I assume)
Soldato
I'm on Twitter/X and Bluesky.
Let market forces naturally decide what happens instead of going full fascist.
Let market forces naturally decide what happens instead of going full fascist.
Not quite, there was an exodus to BlueSky that has tilted that platform to the left after it initially started out for a brief few days as a fairly neutral space for tech enthusiasts, rationalists etc.
But twitter/x.com is very broad and quite evenly split in terms of left:right.
I still think the fundamental point w.r.t this thread is that OCUK already has it's own rules re: acceptable content, people can't just embed anything in a post on here just because it's on twitter ergo there isn't really much of an issue here.
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Soldato
Aye, that's the job of the owners.
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I mean, the putting his hand on his heart and saying "My heart goes out to you" makes the context pretty clear. Awkward yes, short-sighted perhaps but come on people, engage your brain.
The forum itself is "social media" - so would that mean any link to another forum should be banned?
Should YouTube videos be banned? YouTube is social media too.
I would be happy too if all social media platforms like twitter, meta and bluesky was banned too but don’t let perfect be the enemy of good by voting no.
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This. Both are utter echo chambers. I don't want OCUK to become the same, we need to keep discussion - do not ban links, let people decide, like adults.
IMHO banning links is ironically exactly the supposed justification for doing so - facist.
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Don
And yet despite more reminders, I still feel like I've ventured into the Elon Musk / Nazi thread
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I've unlocked this because I want the discussion on whether Twitter / X should be allowed to continue.
The subject is not about Elon Musk, there's a separate thread in SC for that.
Keep it on topic.
The subject is not about Elon Musk, there's a separate thread in SC for that.
Keep it on topic.
Forums were around before the creation of the algorithmic social media sites. Nothing even social about them anymore, nobody actually discusses or 'socialises', it's all just non-stop sound bites from one side or the other side. They are battlefields.
Not having those battlefields dragged into our wonderful forum is a good thing.
