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absolutely nothing and a great engine too N52 or could be wrong N53 then yes problems :) that should have all been sorted at that mileage.
N53, owners father (family owned for 9 years) can't remember the details but the engine had about £4500 spent on it around 100k miles, either a new head or replacement reconditioned engine. Gearbox rebuilt at 145k miles. Spark plugs, Accessory Belt and tensioners, Chain tensioner, Spark Plug and Battery late 2021 and new Starter motor, disk and pads all around in the last year.
 
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N53, owners father (family owned for 9 years) can't remember the details but the engine had about £4500 spent on it around 100k miles, either a new head or replacement reconditioned engine. Gearbox rebuilt at 145k miles. Spark plugs, Accessory Belt and tensioners, Chain tensioner, Spark Plug and Battery late 2021 and new Starter motor, disk and pads all around in the last year.
Rather buy a 150k plus mileage like you have you know the clutch and other bits have been replaced.

She will treat you well
 
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Picked up my new Skoda Kodiaq L&K today. Maybe not as exciting as some of the other cars on here, but I love it so far (So far just driven it home).

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Replaced the Kona (via a Honda E we don't talk about) with a Model 3 SR+:

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(Also playing a game of who can kill the exposure on my XR the most, my car, the garage door or my neighbours car...)

Inside looks strangely like every other model 3... with added blue Dragon!

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For when we want some noise to go along with the pace, also known as my wife's commuting car - Fiesta ST2 with Performance Pack:

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ST2 Interior with extra Dragon and Snoopy power...

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Model 3 is booked in to Tesla Bristol SC to get the parking sensors / park assist fixed as it has decided I don't need those.
 
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@oweneades tell me about the Honda E :D

These are on my radar, so please do tell!

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Sorry in advance for the rather long post...

The E was very much a heart over head purchase. I had it for three months and in that time I realised it was not the right fit for me. Essentially I thought the limited range and tech overload would work for me. Unfortunately as nice as the car is itself the absolute lack of range in the real world became a problem quite quickly. Whilst I only do ~30 miles a day commute, the inability for the car to do more than 50 miles radius range (the range at which I couldn't make it back home) was a major limit. This is where the heart over head came in as I didn't really think about this practicality (or lack there of) when I got it. For context range wise I had achieved an average of 5.0 m/kWh in the Kona thus was expecting to at least match if not exceed the ~125 miles quoted by Honda, I was exceeding the range quoted for the Kona and am clearly an efficient EV driver so why not... Oh how wrong could I have been. My long term average was 3.9m/kWh in the E with a real world usable range of ~100-120 miles. Any form of climate, even just fans with no heat, sapped a further chunk of range leaving that quoted range figure in some doubt. This was all in Jul - Sep timeframe so before the temperature dropped causing that range to drop even further. If my Tesla is anything to go by, the sub 0 degree weather we had suggests barely 80 miles of real world range for the E....

Then we get onto the tech. On the face of it there was a lot to like. Dual main screens with a seperate screen for Driver information, and the infamous cameras in lieu of mirrors. Unlike a lot of the reviews I found the screens clear to view and navigate. Unfortunately it kind of fell apart from there. The built in Navigation was terrible with poor visuals and, from what I could tell, no obvious way to get it to show known charging locations. Wireless Carplay was nice but would only work around 50% of the time and refused to switch to a different phone if two were present, even if you overrode the wireless feature by plugging one directly in. The cameras for wing mirrors are a cool gimmick but in dreary conditions were nigh on useless and the less said about the screen-for-a-rear-view-mirror the better. Oh and the HDMI in with a 3 pin plug is good for testing out a Xbox/Switch once but then quickly forgotten. This all pales to the major issues for me though. The complete lack of any decent EV information either when driving or charging. The ass-backwards way you schedule charging, its a wait time and not a charge timer... and the two big ones, the app completely not functioning despite multiple trips to the dealer and the screens themselves just randomly turning off mid drive and/or flashing bright white like they are at an 80's rave. The latter one is a clearly a glitch but damn was it annoying.

There were some smaller annoyances as well:

- The lights which whilst good straight ahead had seemingly no sweep to them. It's hard to describe but it felt like having two really powerful spot lights looking directly ahead and nothing else. Coming from the Kona's portable suns they were quite the let down.
- The charge port, which is facing upwards on top of the bonnet (why?!), has no drain port so in the rain it would quickly fill up. Don't worry though, Honda has you covered with the worlds tiniest rain Mack, I am NOT kidding.. The car has a little rain cover that you velcro over the charge port in the event it rains whilst charging.
- The microscopic boot which is taken up 50% by the two charging bags. The boot itself isn't the problem is the fact you have no where else to store the chargers.
- Lack of split fold rear seats. Again in isolation not an issue but compounds the boot issue.

Some highlights however:

- Interior fit, finish and general ambience were fantastic. The use of cloth on the door cards Wood effect Dash really brightens up the cabin.
- Interior was surprisingly spacious, even in the back.
- Driving experience itself was excellent. Decent punch from the ~156PS motor and being RWD it didn't have the Kona's grip problems.
- Stereo was pretty good considering the size of the car. Nice a clear without the usual overdone base.
- Very comfortable, even for longer journeys (not that you would be going far...)


Overall it was a nice car let down by its poor real world range (compared to estimate) and tech. If it had say a 40kWh usable battery, so 150-200 miles of real world range, and a more thought out approach to the tech, better Nav, information etc, then it would be a very good overall package, even if a tad expensive.

I am happy I had the experience and fortunately didn't lose much as the Tesla had dropped in price and I moved when used prices were still strong.
 
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That's a shame, I always thought they were fun looking cars. It's stuff like this that you don't get from reviews.

It was kind of weird in a way. The actual driving experience meant you wanted to take it on a long journey, even for just the fun of it. However, the lack of range and tech issues (in my example anyway) meant this was really practical.

Just to add so it isn't me just dunking on the car, my M3 isn't all sunshine and rainbows. The current lack of park assist is frustrating, the auto wipers are terrible and the auto climate enables auto-defog even when its not fogged up. That said it can go twice as far as the E even factoring in I am comparing Winter range on the M3 vs Summer/Autumn range with the E and includes full climate in the M3..
 

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It was kind of weird in a way. The actual driving experience meant you wanted to take it on a long journey, even for just the fun of it. However, the lack of range and tech issues (in my example anyway) meant this was really practical.

Just to add so it isn't me just dunking on the car, my M3 isn't all sunshine and rainbows. The current lack of park assist is frustrating, the auto wipers are terrible and the auto climate enables auto-defog even when its not fogged up. That said it can go twice as far as the E even factoring in I am comparing Winter range on the M3 vs Summer/Autumn range with the E and includes full climate in the M3..
Totally understand! Thanks for the write-up :)
 
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Unless your commute is down the road and back, I just can't see the point in the Honda-E, For the same price, you could get something like a top spec Leaf which is faster, much more range and more practical. (Totally not a biased Leaf owner :) )
 
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Took the Evo for a run out to get some photos in advance of putting it up for sale - will be genuinely sad to see it go but has to in order to make other crazy ideas happen :D (Sorry, huge diversion from EV comparisons going on :p)

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It is an absolute stunner mate, I think you will find that very easy to sell, DO NOT GIVE IT AWAY! :)
 
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It is an absolute stunner mate, I think you will find that very easy to sell, DO NOT GIVE IT AWAY! :)

Cheers, it's a spot on example for sure :) Have new discs turning up this week (I suspect the current ones are warped due to a small vibration under braking which new pads didn't sort) then it'll be up for sale - won't be giving it away unless the 360 sells and a perfect 650S Spider also happens to pop up :D although expect it'll take a little while to find someone who will pay the reasonable premium for the fact its a GT and the condition / high quality mods on the car (Ohlins coilovers, Advan wheels etc)

Put those pics on the Evo owners group and mentioned would be for sale shortly - had 5 messages within 2 mins so took that back down and will repost when its ready to go :)
 
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Cheers, it's a spot on example for sure :) Have new discs turning up this week (I suspect the current ones are warped due to a small vibration under braking which new pads didn't sort) then it'll be up for sale - won't be giving it away unless the 360 sells and a perfect 650S Spider also happens to pop up :D although expect it'll take a little while to find someone who will pay the reasonable premium for the fact its a GT and the condition / high quality mods on the car (Ohlins coilovers, Advan wheels etc)

Put those pics on the Evo owners group and mentioned would be for sale shortly - had 5 messages within 2 mins so took that back down and will repost when its ready to go :)

650S good choice, real bargain of a car sub 100k, just make sure whatever you buy is inspected prior to purchase by a Specialist or Mclaren, it is very easy to land a 10k, 20k or 30k bill with these cars. Main points of suffer is accumulators about 5-10k to replace all round. Corrosion (10yr warranty) and other niggles, check ceramic brakes are smooth, relatively shiny and not pitted heavily as that is another potential 10k plus bill and when inspected make sure all coolant lines are checked as they can fail if old clips.

Otherwise great cars which fixed all the issues the early MP4-12C had.

Also drive a 570S as its the same money and dependent on how you like your cars to drive some people prefer the more natural feel of the sports series over the super series.
 
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Shakedown for the Lotus as its been off the road for a couple of months but its on track next week so thought best run it to work make sure its developed no issues, but all is well. :)

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