Sim racers - what are you running?

glenimp617 · 31 Dec 2021 at 19:36

Trox said:
Burnt!? Guess it runs hot

No, had a really bad skin reaction. It's like a chemical burn.

I've ordered a new face plate, but this afternoon I gave both the foam padding and silicone a good wash. Just waiting for it to dry now.

Cavallino · 2 Jan 2022 at 16:17

Folks... what settings are you using for your CSL DDs?

Is it me or is FF at 100% just insanely difficult to steer?
I mean surely FF can hinder your ability to race at 100% effectiveness? You dont want to be wrestling the steering wheel? (its as if there is no power steering).

Or is it dependent on game?

iamtheoneneo · 3 Jan 2022 at 09:35

Cavallino said:
Folks... what settings are you using for your CSL DDs?

Is it me or is FF at 100% just insanely difficult to steer?
I mean surely FF can hinder your ability to race at 100% effectiveness? You dont want to be wrestling the steering wheel? (its as if there is no power steering).

Or is it dependent on game?

Its game dependant. Look at the settings post on the fanatec forums. For example here are the iracing settings https://forum.fanatec.com/discussion/653/iracing-pc-fanatec-recommended-settings

In iracing I then adjust strength depending on car (ie mazdas at 14, ferrari at 10.5, porsche at 9ish) but the CSL settings never change. In most performance cars the expectation is that you are fighting with the wheel a little as its the only way to know where the limit is.

Cavallino · 3 Jan 2022 at 10:48

Ah ok, thanks iamtheoneneo!

So its not unusual to be "wrestling the car"
The steering can be quite heavy, e.g. even if when the car is still, youd expect to be able to go lock to lock surely with little effort in any normal car?

azazl187 · 3 Jan 2022 at 10:49

Anyone looking forward to the new GT7? Hopefully my G29 will work with it

iamtheoneneo · 3 Jan 2022 at 14:37

Cavallino said:
Ah ok, thanks iamtheoneneo!

So its not unusual to be "wrestling the car"
The steering can be quite heavy, e.g. even if when the car is still, youd expect to be able to go lock to lock surely with little effort in any normal car?

What game and what car?

Cavallino · 3 Jan 2022 at 14:47

Project cars and the F488.
It felt like turning a lorry wheel.

Brun · 3 Jan 2022 at 18:02

Cavallino said:
Project cars and the F488.
It felt like turning a lorry wheel.

100% is simply the maximum torque available. It's not supposed to represent anything to do with realism.

I'd suggest setting the wheel to something comfortable, and then adjust FFB strength in game as necessary.

Trox · 3 Jan 2022 at 18:33

Cavallino said:
Project cars and the F488.
It felt like turning a lorry wheel.

Make sure the FFB is not clipping and it has a full range of force and not just the high end. Most games have a FFB graph you can use to see the FFB range.

Use that and adjust so it doesn't just flatline at 100%.

That's all I do anyway, I'm sure more knowledgeable people will correct me if I'm doing it wrong

TerrierHTFC · 7 Jan 2022 at 10:51

Can someone running triple 27's do me a favour? I'm planning my first rig and can't quite work out if I have the space for triple 27's - What's the overall width of anyones?

Cavallino · 7 Jan 2022 at 11:50

Trox said:
Make sure the FFB is not clipping and it has a full range of force and not just the high end. Most games have a FFB graph you can use to see the FFB range.

Use that and adjust so it doesn't just flatline at 100%.

That's all I do anyway, I'm sure more knowledgeable people will correct me if I'm doing it wrong

Cheers Trox and Brun.

What does flatline at 100% mean exactly?

Brun · 7 Jan 2022 at 12:26

TerrierHTFC said:
Can someone running triple 27's do me a favour? I'm planning my first rig and can't quite work out if I have the space for triple 27's - What's the overall width of anyones?

A 27" screen is 600mm wide, plus bezels. Maximum width therefore ~1.8m but actual will be less depending on how much you angle the side screens.

Trox · 7 Jan 2022 at 15:06

Cavallino said:
Cheers Trox and Brun.

What does flatline at 100% mean exactly?

If the FFB on the Project Cars graph is at 100% strength constantly you will lose out on subtle details that tell you how the car is handling. You may end up wrestling with forces stronger than they should be.

I've noticed that PC2 FFB is a lot stronger than ACC at default settings

Cavallino · 7 Jan 2022 at 19:52

Ah cheers Trox.
Where exactly do I find this FFB graph in PC2?

hyperseven · 7 Jan 2022 at 22:47

Cavallino said:
Ah cheers Trox.
Where exactly do I find this FFB graph in PC2?

think it is when you set the HUD Level set to 'telemetry' under gameplay options.

TerrierHTFC · 7 Jan 2022 at 23:22

Brun said:
A 27" screen is 600mm wide, plus bezels. Maximum width therefore ~1.8m but actual will be less depending on how much you angle the side screens.

That’s what I was getting at, the overall width give the angles of circa 45 degrees or so.

Brun · 8 Jan 2022 at 01:40

TerrierHTFC said:
That’s what I was getting at, the overall width give the angles of circa 45 degrees or so.

Without intending to be a smartarse:

1. Draw a 60mm line on a piece of paper
2. Draw two 60mm lines from either end at ~45deg
3. Measure distance between the ends
4. That x10 is how much space the triples will need

Granted it will only be approximate, but given there's flexibility in the angles it should give you a good idea whether it's practical.

pacegod · 8 Jan 2022 at 09:35

3 panels at 600mm requires 1450mm to the inside face of the screens.

Trox · 8 Jan 2022 at 12:41

Cavallino said:
Ah cheers Trox.
Where exactly do I find this FFB graph in PC2?

Assign a button to Cycle Hud Display so you can bring it up when you feel something isn't right, the FFB is at the bottom iirc

---Edit
Came across this which might be of use, seems to have a good series of YouTube guides on it
https://www.projectcarsgame.com/two/blog/the_insiders_guide/episode-4-setting-feel-force-feedback/

TerrierHTFC · 8 Jan 2022 at 17:31

Brun said:
Without intending to be a smartarse:

1. Draw a 60mm line on a piece of paper
2. Draw two 60mm lines from either end at ~45deg
3. Measure distance between the ends
4. That x10 is how much space the triples will need

Granted it will only be approximate, but given there's flexibility in the angles it should give you a good idea whether it's practical.

Its about 20 years since I last owned a Protractor

But cheers.