Caporegime
- Joined
- 18 Oct 2002
- Posts
- 33,188
That's what they did mid-season. Before the tyre change, RBR were on par with Lotus and Ferrari. Once the durable tyres came in, RBR were in a different league.
Think of it this way, in today's race, if tyres were more durable, Vettel would've continued lapping 2s/lap faster than everybody. Would like to see this?
Why do you keep saying this, the RBR was not even close to on par with the Lotus and Ferrari.
Vettel has dominated all year, there are tracks that suit the car and ones that suit others. EXACTLY like last year the Lotus is a very up and down car the best spell Kimi had last year was 3 podiums in a row, his one win came out of the blue. In the last 8 races he won the one race and didn't finish higher than 5th in the other 7. Was that because of some tyre change, or a car that is great on only a minority of tracks throughout the year and a bit crap on others?
This year Kimi up to the tyre change had a 7th, 10th, 9th and 5th. Since then he has finished one race above 3rd place(and had one stupid failure thanks to a piece of plastic). In what way was the Lotus brilliant and competitive before the change and rubbish since? In that before the tyre change he had 4 podiums in 8 races, or that he has had 3 podiums in 4 races(excluding the retirement) since the tyres changed and that he came second in the first race with the new tyres?
Look up last years and this years results. Kimi did great in Spain, sucked in Monaco, Canada, great back in Spain, meh at Silvertone, great in Germany and Hungary... what did he do this year, great in Spain, crap in Monaco, Canada, Silverstone(in those three races it was 10th/9th/5th one year and 9th/8th/5th the other year....) then great in Germany/Hungary again(3rd/2nd last year, this year 2nd/2nd... so improved.....
Should we do Alonso, before the tyre change two wins, but also an 8th and a 7th, since the change, no lower than 5th and that was in the first race on new tyres, three second places since then on the new tyres... definitely not working for him at all.
The tyre change has changed pretty much nothing. Hamilton didn't suddenly get good in Hungary and Ferrari/Lotus weren't by any stretch of the imagination on par with Red Bull before the change, only in dream land.
In terms of being on the limit and engines being a limit of tyres are.... thats fine. Engines can blow, the cars are designed by the team, we want to see what the TEAMS can do, not what Pirelli can do. It's F1, not the Pirelli championship. We WANT to see guys push the limit on the cars, on the track, on the engines. THe season would be vastly more exciting if Vettel could be put under pressure in some races, cruise in others, and fail in others due to having to go a bit faster. When the car and engine are on the limit the drivers can be too, they'll take corners faster, brake later, overtake on corners, not screw their entire stint by going onto the marbles. We'll see real driving, not "cruising", and we'd likely see more failures and less predictability which is all good for the sport.
One of the reasons DRS has become so important is because of the tyres, diving late into a corner and locking your tyres does more harm than good, but doing a great overtake in a corner is where the real racing used to happen. A better driver could judge braking zones, limits and take a different line better. Now you both have marbles off line so less grip and locking up can ruin an entire stint rather than one corner.