Bahhhaaaaaa that is just to funny, can only assume you never watched f1 back then. He was very much hated by a large percentage of fans and actually did wrong stuff unlike Vet, like deliabretly cause two crashes for a start.
Singapore Grand Prix 2013, Marina Bay - Race 13/19
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Bahhhaaaaaa that is just to funny, can only assume you never watched f1 back then. He was very much hated by a large percentage of fans and actually did wrong stuff unlike Vet, like deliabretly cause two crashes for a start.
To be fair to Schumacher, he didn't seem to try to be anything else, he was ruthless and didn't care what people thought... Vettel does seem to be desperate to be liked he wants to be ruthless when it suits but wants everyone to like him still.
What? grandstands packed with red for Schumacher? maybe you confuse the internet with real fans at the track or something.
He was much more liked and respected the second time around.Not been in this thread since the race, so sorry if I re-ignite anything, but my summary:
Meh, Vettel. But you have to admit, being 2.5 seconds faster than everyone on demand was bloody impressive.
Hamiltons penalty was harsh. It seems the 'forcing a driver off the track' rule is ignored on the first lap, but the 'gaining an advantage off the track' one isn't.
Hulkenburgs penalty was a complete joke. The FIA basically gifted Perez a place he had absolutely no claim to.
Safety car was a complete joke. 1 lap to clear the accident, 4 laps to wait for Marussias to trundle round. That rule is farcical and needs to go.
Proper hard luck for Webber. He really is the most unlucky guy in F1.
Quite an exciting final few laps, but I expect most people would have turned off by then.
Roll on 2014, this year is all but over now.
Meh, Vettel. But you have to admit, being 2.5 seconds faster than everyone on demand was bloody impressive.
Hamiltons penalty was harsh. It seems the 'forcing a driver off the track' rule is ignored on the first lap, but the 'gaining an advantage off the track' one isn't.
Hulkenburgs penalty was a complete joke. The FIA basically gifted Perez a place he had absolutely no claim to.
Safety car was a complete joke. 1 lap to clear the accident, 4 laps to wait for Marussias to trundle round. That rule is farcical and needs to go.
Proper hard luck for Webber. He really is the most unlucky guy in F1.
Quite an exciting final few laps, but I expect most people would have turned off by then.
Roll on 2014, this year is all but over now.
Agreed on all aspects.
I still love F1 and there's no way I'd stop watching it, but until someone takes it to RB it's a lot less fun. But yeh ho, we encourage excellence so shouldn't moan to much when someone (newey) provides it.
I'm sure we're all hoping that Ferrari and Merc really nail their engine designs!
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2013/9/15012.html
The FIA are just a running joke now. Seriously. What next?
The FIA are just a running joke now. Seriously. What next?
Absolute outrage.
Where can we voice opinions on this where it will get heard? The fans need to have a voice on things like this!
There were no DRS overtakes in the Singapore GP btw. And there were overtakes in it
I've not got a problem with DRS at all. With everything so heavily aero biased, they needed to solve the issue of not being able to get close enough to overtake without compromising engine heat and turbulent air flows. If the car behind is only artificially faster, the taken car can retake again.
It works well IMO.
It works well IMO.
I think it's heavily dependent on the track – some tracks are rubbish and it gifts the overtake to the car behind. Other tracks seem to have the balance right where it enables the chasing car to get into an overtaking position but they still have to fight for it.
Yeh that's fair enough, which is why they keep working on it and changing the trigger/activation points etc. It's something that will improve in time. I certainly wouldn't like to see it removed.
I'm still so ****ed at the FIA over webber/alonso.
You really shouldn't be. If they hadn't reprimanded Webber it would have sent the wrong message out; that it's okay to hitch lifts like that.
I think from the CCTV you can clearly see how close one of the cars was to Webber (think it might have been LH).
If he'd have had a blowout at just before he drove past Webber - well, then you can see why the FiA quite rightly issued the penalty.
Let's not forget either that it was only a reprimand - not a 10 place grid penalty. Just happens to be he's now collected three.
I don't see it like that. Yes there was an element of danger . . why does all danger need to be stamped out? These are the best drivers in the world and at this point are cruising round at 10% of their normal speed, it wasn't that close. When was the last time something went wrong doing this?
They should be able to take responsibility for themselves without mummy FIA stepping in every ten seconds.
They should be able to take responsibility for themselves without mummy FIA stepping in every ten seconds.
Sure, it might have been dangerous, but we have seen it happen loads recently, yet this is the first time the FIA have handed out penalties. Its the FIAs complete lack of consistency that is making them a complete laughing stock.
Its as if they just have a tombola of penalties in the stewards office and randomly allocate them to whoever they feel like.
Its as if they just have a tombola of penalties in the stewards office and randomly allocate them to whoever they feel like.
Of course they are inconsistent.
How on Earth Lewis's Q3 lap at Spa with all 4 tyres off the track at the top of Eau Rouge was allowed.... yet RG's pass at the Hungarian GP on Massa (one of the best overtakes of the season wasn't allowed is beyond me)...
Apparantly fighting for Pole position it's ok to cheat.
Anyway, I wasn't going on about the consistency, or rather lack of from the fia but the actual situation itself. It was dangerous and therefore a penalty was applicable.
How on Earth Lewis's Q3 lap at Spa with all 4 tyres off the track at the top of Eau Rouge was allowed.... yet RG's pass at the Hungarian GP on Massa (one of the best overtakes of the season wasn't allowed is beyond me)...
Apparantly fighting for Pole position it's ok to cheat.
Anyway, I wasn't going on about the consistency, or rather lack of from the fia but the actual situation itself. It was dangerous and therefore a penalty was applicable.
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I'm not particularly fussed by Webber's penalty, it doesn't matter. He's not the driver to get on the podium anymore and it's so comfortably the fastest car when he quite frequently for one reason or another ends up near the back he still finishes in around the same positions so firstly it's not really a penalty.
But what he did was utterly utterly outrageously stupid and dangerous. Alonso shouldn't have stopped on the racing line, as Hamilton said he took evasive action and had Webber been running across to the car at that point Hamilton doing precisely nothing wrong could have actually killed Webber for nothing more than getting back to the pits 5 minutes quicker. Hamilton also pointed out it's good too see it and good for the fans but for the love of god, have Webber walk on the outside of the track onto the end of a straight where it would be a million times safer for another car to stop and other cars to see it. Stopping just around a bend on the racing line and WEbber casually running across was utter utter madness.
The cars are cruising around on that lap but cruising for an F1 car is still fast, they aren't crawling around at 20mph.
But what he did was utterly utterly outrageously stupid and dangerous. Alonso shouldn't have stopped on the racing line, as Hamilton said he took evasive action and had Webber been running across to the car at that point Hamilton doing precisely nothing wrong could have actually killed Webber for nothing more than getting back to the pits 5 minutes quicker. Hamilton also pointed out it's good too see it and good for the fans but for the love of god, have Webber walk on the outside of the track onto the end of a straight where it would be a million times safer for another car to stop and other cars to see it. Stopping just around a bend on the racing line and WEbber casually running across was utter utter madness.
The cars are cruising around on that lap but cruising for an F1 car is still fast, they aren't crawling around at 20mph.
Absolute rubbish. It wasn't an ideal place to do it, sure, but come on 'utterly utterly outrageously' you want to go over the top a little more? Christ the kids throwing themselves down stairs on skateboards are putting themselves in more 'danger'.
Jesus the world is H&S mad. He knew a risk, he took a risk, nothing happened.