Hope so as fergie has done pretty well while he has been in charge.
Some of the stuff people put on here is ridiculous.
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Hope so as fergie has done pretty well while he has been in charge.
Some of the stuff people put on here is ridiculous.
If he stays for ages at Chelsea or ditches them again after a few years?
Behave
We'll never know, *if* it was known fergie was going to retire he *could* have taken a younger manager and treated him as his heir apparent (something he never did with his assistants). I would argue that would be more logical then going with Moyes and his totally different style of play to what Man U currently do. Continuity is, in the main, key to long term success.
Disagree, they have all been more successful than Moyes and his odd finish above Liverpool trophy haul.
Different there though, they fondle his balls and give him the attention he wants as being special
I'd have fondled Maureen's balls. He's a silver fox.
That whole post was a dig
What did he say that was a dig? A week ago had anybody said that Moyes was as good or better than Fergie you'd have had a fit Tom so you can't really argue with somebody saying Utd are going to be weaker as a result of the change. And we already see plenty of Utd fans whining every other week when you're winning - if he's not successful in his first few seasons, there will be a fair bit of unrest.
Who said I was arguing? Everyone knows Moyes is a step down from Fergie we don't need someone stating the obvious and when it's someone like Jonny doing it he's doing it with the sole intention of winding up thus he was taking a dig
Moyes' appointment strikes me very much as Ferguson's appointment rather than Man United's. Looks like DOF / Head coach set up to me. All set up nice for Fergie to carry on doing whatever he likes. Him and someone like Mourinho or Klopp would have been at each others throats within weeks.
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and they speak the same language
So you agreed with everything he said but because it was him saying it, it's a problem? He can't simply be expressing a fairly logical opinion that he's happy that Utd are likely to be weaker now?
No, I'm not.
If I'm stating the obvious as you claim then I would have to be dumber than that cm or mendoza to use that as a dig, only the really special here are, you're getting there.
Here's the rub, I said what I thought with only my team in mind, not yours or the supporters of yours and funnily enough I don't care about either of those. My sole interest in football is with my team, I don't care what other teams do, at least enough to wind their supporters up on here. Stop being so precious, many, many football fans have more interest in their team than yours & when they speak they will have their team in mind, not yours. Deal with it :sunglasses:
Well here is my 10 bobs worth on Fergie Going and Moyes coming in. Probably be a bit boring to none Utd fans but hey ho.
Fergie going, not a lot to say, loved by Utd fans, hated by our closest rivals and thats how he wanted it. What strikes me about Ferguson is that from when he took over from Ron Atkinson, he said from day one, Manchester United was the greatest club. A bold statement to make indeed with the likes of Madrid, Barca and Bayern today and im sure Liverpool and AC Milan and Juve raised an eyebrow or two back then. But thats what he instilled in everybody from the Tea Lady to Toilet cleaner to his assistant. He was way ahead of his time in his training, diet and fiercely supportive of players.
I remember Lee Dixon being interviewed after one of his first seasons under Arsene Wenger lauding how Wenger had 'revolutionised' English football just by changing what players eat before matches. Within a few weeks Utd players joked openly that Fergie did that years ago. He was a manager who was ahead of his time and was never scared of making the tough decision for what he believed to be 'The Greatest Football Club'
Nothing needs to be said about what he has achieved in the game, his record speaks for itself.
So onto Moyes
At first I have to say I was slightly underwhelmed by the appointment. Over the last few days it has been wall to wall coverage with every single pundit, reporter and journo having an opinion on Fergie going out and who would fill the void for this almost impossible job to fill.
What is strikingly clear is the respect that Moyes has developed amongst true football people. He is seen as a man of integrity, fiercley protective of his players and always ready to give youth a chance. He sets high standards of those around him from his team, back room staff and everyone else associated with Everton. He is a fantastic student of the game. Sounds bloody familiar to a certain outgoing Scot doesn't it.
Yeah the modern day fan who demands instant success will be instantly disappointed while Moyes stamps his authority and character not only the team but also on the club. Of course they will want the Charisma of a Jose or the tippy tappy of a Pep Guardiola. If the likes of an AC Milan with money, Bayern or Chelsea came in for them, would they stick around probably not.
Liverpool fans have been mocking all week, 'The Greatest Everton Manager never to win anything' Yet he has delivered Everton's most stable period on limited resources whilst their neighbors have consistently spent more and are they any better off for it ? They mock because they think we have lost Fergie and to some, it will make them a more attractive bet for surely 'This is their year whilst still being that last elusive player from greatness'
Moyes has the impossible job with the biggest challenge and in some respects, it's probably the manager after him who will truly move the club out of Fergies shadow. All things considered, I think Moyes is more qualified than the likes of Mourhinio to manage the club and keep its traditions than just simply managing a team and massaging the ego of an owner demanding instant success.
After that last game at WBA, it's time to get behind the new gaffer. In the bigger scheme of things we could have done a lot worse than Moyes. A lot lot worse.
Fergie going, not a lot to say, loved by Utd fans, hated by our closest rivals and thats how he wanted it. What strikes me about Ferguson is that from when he took over from Ron Atkinson, he said from day one, Manchester United was the greatest club. A bold statement to make indeed with the likes of Madrid, Barca and Bayern today and im sure Liverpool and AC Milan and Juve raised an eyebrow or two back then. But thats what he instilled in everybody from the Tea Lady to Toilet cleaner to his assistant. He was way ahead of his time in his training, diet and fiercely supportive of players.
I remember Lee Dixon being interviewed after one of his first seasons under Arsene Wenger lauding how Wenger had 'revolutionised' English football just by changing what players eat before matches. Within a few weeks Utd players joked openly that Fergie did that years ago. He was a manager who was ahead of his time and was never scared of making the tough decision for what he believed to be 'The Greatest Football Club'
Nothing needs to be said about what he has achieved in the game, his record speaks for itself.
So onto Moyes
At first I have to say I was slightly underwhelmed by the appointment. Over the last few days it has been wall to wall coverage with every single pundit, reporter and journo having an opinion on Fergie going out and who would fill the void for this almost impossible job to fill.
What is strikingly clear is the respect that Moyes has developed amongst true football people. He is seen as a man of integrity, fiercley protective of his players and always ready to give youth a chance. He sets high standards of those around him from his team, back room staff and everyone else associated with Everton. He is a fantastic student of the game. Sounds bloody familiar to a certain outgoing Scot doesn't it.
Yeah the modern day fan who demands instant success will be instantly disappointed while Moyes stamps his authority and character not only the team but also on the club. Of course they will want the Charisma of a Jose or the tippy tappy of a Pep Guardiola. If the likes of an AC Milan with money, Bayern or Chelsea came in for them, would they stick around probably not.
Liverpool fans have been mocking all week, 'The Greatest Everton Manager never to win anything' Yet he has delivered Everton's most stable period on limited resources whilst their neighbors have consistently spent more and are they any better off for it ? They mock because they think we have lost Fergie and to some, it will make them a more attractive bet for surely 'This is their year whilst still being that last elusive player from greatness'
Moyes has the impossible job with the biggest challenge and in some respects, it's probably the manager after him who will truly move the club out of Fergies shadow. All things considered, I think Moyes is more qualified than the likes of Mourhinio to manage the club and keep its traditions than just simply managing a team and massaging the ego of an owner demanding instant success.
After that last game at WBA, it's time to get behind the new gaffer. In the bigger scheme of things we could have done a lot worse than Moyes. A lot lot worse.
Not when he says he's not having a dig no.
If I say Abramovich was an idiot for sacking Mourinho I'm telling the truth am I not? I'm also knowingly having a dig whilst doing so. It's exactly what Jonny did.
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Good post Loki.
Nope, he didn't.
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